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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 02:14 PM
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If it's water on start up, it's ok. antifreeze, not ok.
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 02:28 PM
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Correct, some water dropplets are okay. It's created by the cataletic converter, a by-product of reduced harmful emmission.

If you have a white cloud coming from the exhaust and if it smells sweet then you need to worry- that's antifreeze.

Visiual inspection and compression test are the next things you should be doing. A head gasket is not typically a problem for our engines, so I would not suggest replacing yours if you don't have any signs of it being defective. Since I assume you'll be having someone else doing that type of work it will be very expensive and something you'll have to do again when the head does crack... um, I mean "if" it cracks. Trying to be optomistic.

Leaf spring would be good to replace, bushings for any of the suspension, all your fluids (that's something you can do yourself), and anything to do with safety and reliability. After you've done those things then you can worry about cosmetics, because eventually you'll be taking it out in the woods and beating the crap out of it anyway, right? You know you want to....
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 03:28 PM
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Um. Guys. I pulled it out of the garage and then left her on while i re did the tape in the ceiling while listening to music. And i just pulled her back in, and notice the oil pressure dropped from 40 to 20....

Then, what does it mean if antifreeze is in my exhaust?

And can someone get me a link to a head gasket that i can have put in. Im really scared about this.
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 03:38 PM
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It was on idle the whole time. It doesnt look like my coolant is lower. But oil looks a little overfilled

Also, it kinda does smell sweet. What does anti freeze in there mean?
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I just went to start it again. The oil pressure went up to 35 and is dropping.

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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Cherockee
A head gasket is not typically a problem for our engines, so I would not suggest replacing yours if you don't have any signs of it being defective. Since I assume you'll be having someone else doing that type of work it will be very expensive and something you'll have to do again when the head does crack... um, I mean "if" it cracks.

Are you saying even if i get a new one it can crack??!!
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 04:13 PM
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20psi is just fine for oil pressure. Especially of its just sitting and idling.
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 07:46 PM
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Alright cool. I was sorta freaking out and i read dropping oil pressure could mean header issue. Im gonna do some more reading through the chilton manual i bought... Learn more. Too bad schools in session though.
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jeepMI
Are you saying even if i get a new one it can crack??!!
No, as long as you're not getting the same head casting. But honestly under certain conditions any head can crack.

Oil shouldn't look over filled, especially if you just had it changed. Better look into that. So you have a sweet smell from the tail pipe? Better get that block test done real quick. Don't run it much more until you have that done.
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Cherockee
No, as long as you're not getting the same head casting. But honestly under certain conditions any head can crack. Oil shouldn't look over filled, especially if you just had it changed. Better look into that. So you have a sweet smell from the tail pipe? Better get that block test done real quick. Don't run it much more until you have that done.

Block test??
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 08:29 PM
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looks like this is going to be a nice build someday man! Don't let people scare you with all of the things that "could" be wrong with your jeep. Most people don't actually have those issues and I wouldn't worry about them or replacing anything unless you see any warning signs or anything out of the ordinary. It's not a bad idea to have everything looked over by a mechanic if you haven't already though.

btw, 65k and no rust is almost unheard here in Michigan! What city are you in?
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 09:00 PM
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Thanks man!
Im in Novi. Im maybe 40 minutes away from you.

We did have firestone look at it, but i probably wont go there again. I heard theres a good shop that works solely on jeeps in plymouth. Gonna look into that.

Also, whats a solid operating temperature?? I was at 210 while idling. But that seems a little high.
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by jeepMI
Thanks man!
Im in Novi. Im maybe 40 minutes away from you.

We did have firestone look at it, but i probably wont go there again. I heard theres a good shop that works solely on jeeps in plymouth. Gonna look into that.

Also, whats a solid operating temperature?? I was at 210 while idling. But that seems a little high.
210 is normal.

Also, unless your head gasket is already blown I would not mess with it.

If you take it apart you may have to have the head machined and it could end up being a lot more work. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 12:08 AM
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You can have the shop do whatever you'd like, it's just a matter a cost. If they are reputable, decently priced, and you aren't comfortable tackling any of the jobs yourself then that's probably your best bet. Again, just my opinion!
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 04:37 PM
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I really appreciate all the replies guys!

By the way, Ive kind of been copying Kelly4's build.
And today i took the krylon fusion i bought on monday and went to work painting the trim, bumpers, and fenders. I also had my friend help me with this.

I bought one can, but i definetly need another because it was only enough for one side.

I used a scrubber that is like a plastic steel wool. Not sure what its called. Well i used this to get all the junk off of the trim and rough it up before i paint.

Then we taped everything and started priming.


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After 3 layers of primer, paint


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Then it was time to remove the tape


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And heres the difference


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Yesterday i started replacing the scotch tape used to hold the wires up with electrical tape. Not as strong but it wont rot to the metal. And looks nicer. Ill get pics later. In the meanwhile I'm going to try and find a shop to bring it in.
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Old Sep 26, 2013 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jeepMI
Thanks man!
Im in Novi. Im maybe 40 minutes away from you.

We did have firestone look at it, but i probably wont go there again. I heard theres a good shop that works solely on jeeps in plymouth. Gonna look into that.

Also, whats a solid operating temperature?? I was at 210 while idling. But that seems a little high.
Originally Posted by CherockeeXJ
210 is normal.

Also, unless your head gasket is already blown I would not mess with it.

If you take it apart you may have to have the head machined and it could end up being a lot more work. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!


argreed. 210 is a normal temp.
However my head gasket blew a couple summers ago so i threw in a 160 degree thermostat in there, did a coolant flush and new water pump. now My
the only time i hit 210 i when im stopped at a light running the A/C.
Normal driving temp is about 180 now.
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