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Old 05-27-2013, 10:21 PM
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I'm new to Jeeps, trail rigs, etc. I also haven't gotten to do a lot of wrench turning other than fixing snowmobiles and daily driver cars. So when a friend mentioned a 1986 Cherokee Laredo 2-door that he was going to ditch for scrap I took the opportunity for a fun project. I also live pretty close to an OHV park, so as a bonus I can probably get some decent use out of it. I'm also new to posting on forums, just a heads up.

The Jeep itself is in pretty good shape for a 1986. Overall the body is solid (only a couple of dents from a deer). The floor boards have some rust but not too bad. The engine has some issues, but from what buddies and other forums say it isn't a bad thing to upgrade anyway (I have the 2.8L V6).

For those of you wondering about the title "Jezebel", it comes from the owner before the one I bought it from. The guy I got it from nicknamed it after her and it kind of stuck.

Anyway, onto the build. I've already started buying a bunch of stuff and doing some work, so it's about a month in progress. I work a full time job and am going for my master's degree in electrical engineering, so progress will be hit and miss at times. The goal of the build is to be a capable daily driver yet fun off road as well. Since most of my wrenching experience has been on broken vehicles that I need to get running and not fun builds, I also want to use this as a chance to learn some engine work/etc and more about the different parts of a 4 wheel drive vehicle. I've got a handful of buddies who are giving advice and assistance, but any additional comments/suggestions are always welcome.

Upgrades I'm planning:
Bushwacker cutout flares
Rusty's 4 1/2" lift with adjustable control arms, JKS disconnects, and steering stabilizer
33" BFGoodrich All Terrain tires
JCR Offroad stage 3 rock sliders
Misc armor/protection
Front and rear bumpers
Spare tire holder on rear bumper
Adding recovery points
WinchMoog tie rod ends and U-joints
Chevy 350 engine with 700R4 tranny (probably not right away)
Upgrade to Dana 30/35 (not sure what yet) and lockers
Bedliner inside (Herculiner, no carpet) and out (2 tone, Monstaliner)
Change of interior color from red to blue
Removing headliner (may need to deal with sound from this and carpet coming out)
Pioneer deck, amp, sub, speakers (probably removing them from doors and making sound bar type setup)
Probably others that I'm forgetting but will try to list when I do them.

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Nice interior. Always preferred the Laredo seats. Especially since those fold in your 2 door.
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looks like a fun start...
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Few more interior pics before I started work.





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The first parts I got in were the Bushwackers and they seemed like they'd be easy enough to get in. I've never cut fenders but it didn't seem like it'd be too bad. Stripped off the factory flares easy enough and cut the front 2 first. Took longer than I figured, but went well. On my driver side it actually got rid of most of the damage from a deer hit, so I couldn't complain about that either. I ran into a couple of hiccups on the rear. I did the trimming on the driver side per the directions and grabbed one of the remaining flares. Looked like I needed more trimming to get it to fit, so I did and managed to hit the weld between the 2 pieces. To add insult to injury, came to find that the 2 flares were both rear passenger side so I was doomed with that set anyway. I'm in the process of an RMA to get it corrected, but that put that work on hold.

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With the flares on hold, I thought I'd start on the interior work. I started by ripping out the interior trim and headliner. That went very easy (I wasn't overly sensitive on the trim, I'm thinking of making some new metal trim to make it a little unique). I was pretty happy with how the ceiling looks without the headliner, but a buddy said it may sound too tingy to leave like that. Guess I'll wait and see.



I then proceeded with the carpet and seats. This went pretty easy with the exception of a few screws and bolts. After doing it I was pretty glad I decided to. I found the floor panels quite a bit more rusted than I expected (plus a good supply of mouse crap that was nice to clean out).



And removed the center console.

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I'm still in the process of grinding/wirebrushing, acid cleaning, then rust convertor/priming things. Passenger side went easy, rest is slower. I've got a few patches to take care of before I can bedline also. If I keep ambitious and can focus on it, might be soon that I can get the floor done and start getting the inside back together.



When I needed a break during some of this work I decided to try out some of my vinyl/interior paint. Since I had the console out I took it apart and did the arm rest and main piece. The first coat or two didn't look to impressive, after 3+ I'm happy with it. Since I'm not a fan of red this blue works better for me (but means no turning back on converting colors for everything).



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Oh man, your interior reminded me of the way my '86 used to look... and then I scroll down and your interior looks like how my '86 looks now.

For 33's you'll be fine sticking with the Dana 30 up front and swapping in a 29 spline 8.25 in the rear.
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Oh man, your interior reminded me of the way my '86 used to look... and then I scroll down and your interior looks like how my '86 looks now.
Sure came out easy. Demo work is way too easy and fun

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For 33's you'll be fine sticking with the Dana 30 up front and swapping in a 29 spline 8.25 in the rear.
My buddies all said I'd be safe running the 30 for a while, but to keep my eyes open for an upgrade once I get settled with the stuff I've got planned so far. Until I get the engine upgraded I may be kind of limited in the trail riding I do anyway since the 2.8L isn't 100%. I may sink some money in to buy some time with it, but I think that all depends on how the other work goes and how many other parts and pieces I decide to pickup along the way
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the 2.8 is not as bad of an engine as people make it out to be. I put the one in my first XJ through hell... even locked it up after turning the ***** off of it in a mudhole for almost 30 minutes... broke it loose by pop starting it and it fired right up and was still running like a top when I had to get rid of it
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I've never seen a running 2.8 around me. Saw one in a junkyard that barely broke 100k. I think it might have had 100,004 miles, no joke.
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I've never seen a running 2.8 around me. Saw one in a junkyard that barely broke 100k. I think it might have had 100,004 miles, no joke.
My '86 has 89k on it and runs good. My '86 parts Jeep, also a 2.8L, has 184k and runs better than mine does. Mid '85 GM updated the block with larger crank journals, which had been an issue in the past. I always say it, but I see more 4.0L on the trail having issues vs my 2.8L.

You'll find, when you get around to your sbc swap, the engine bay is better laid out for it's donor engine vs '87+. From what I've read during my own research, the 2.8L radiator should keep up with cooling duties with an electric puller fan and shroud.
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the 2.8 is not as bad of an engine as people make it out to be. I put the one in my first XJ through hell... even locked it up after turning the ***** off of it in a mudhole for almost 30 minutes... broke it loose by pop starting it and it fired right up and was still running like a top when I had to get rid of it
I've heard a number of views both ways and I can't say I'm too convinced they're bad, the upgrade seems to fit my plan for the project. The engine that's in the Jeep can be made to last a little while with some work (and probably will to get me through the year), but it has 138k miles on it and is showing good signs of needing TLC. Since I'm going to use this for on road driving and would like the experience of a full engine rebuild, the extra power of a 350 and ease for aftermarket support seems like a decent route to go.
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You'll find, when you get around to your sbc swap, the engine bay is better laid out for it's donor engine vs '87+. From what I've read during my own research, the 2.8L radiator should keep up with cooling duties with an electric puller fan and shroud.
I've been looking at this site for some of the info on the engine swap. They lean towards needing an upgraded radiator. I guess I haven't done a whole lot more looking yet since that work is a ways out. Once I knock off the list of things I have sitting in my garage I'll probably spend some more time researching.

http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/xj_swap.htm
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Originally Posted by jart_mn
I've been looking at this site for some of the info on the engine swap. They lean towards needing an upgraded radiator. I guess I haven't done a whole lot more looking yet since that work is a ways out. Once I knock off the list of things I have sitting in my garage I'll probably spend some more time researching.

http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/xj_swap.htm
Novak would definitely like you to buy there $600 radiator, but its not a bolt in affair for your engine bay. I've read various build threads where guys have kept the stock 2.8L radiator (which is different from those found in the 4.0L) with a puller fan with no issues.

Here's a 4.0L in a '92 I have laying around.



This is how my '87 MJ is setup with a sbc and Afco radiator. Still need to finish making my brackets to mount my radiator. The Novak radiator fits behind the grille in that empty space. I've cut the top header panel piece (which holds the factory radiator in) to make room for this setup.



Now compare to my '86 XJ engine bay. Very different cooling setups and in my opinion, the 2.8L is setup better.



Keep doing your research, but try to focus on 84-86 swaps so you can get an idea of what you'll be dealing with.


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