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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by pulltabmike

Not touching anything on the ZJ, I have it running SWEET

The XJ is another story. I have it tagged Historic so I don't have to worry about emissions, ect. I want to simplify the harness for neatness and troubleshooting purposes, cause right now it looks like a bunch of spagetti going no where under the hood
How old does a vehicle have to be to get historic tags? My parents need them I think. They have 90 and 92 Volvos.
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jakbob
i suspect the axle shaft... from the pics it looks like the pads are worn evenly
Possibility that it could be the drum, a lot of people don't realize that they have to be turned too. Easier to check that than pull an axle shaft...
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pulltabmike

Not touching anything on the ZJ, I have it running SWEET

The XJ is another story. I have it tagged Historic so I don't have to worry about emissions, ect. I want to simplify the harness for neatness and troubleshooting purposes, cause right now it looks like a bunch of spagetti going no where under the hood
I think I need to get with you and Jakbob and figure out how to get my xj running sweet. I've about given up and I'll just run it til it don't run no more. Duke I may need your expertise too. I need a xj for dummy book. Lol.
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Pudgy Fingers
How old does a vehicle have to be to get historic tags? My parents need them I think. They have 90 and 92 Volvos.

20 years, but it limits how much the car can be driven. i believe MD state law says "historic tagged vehicles can only be driven on sundays" or some ****. but then again, it isnt a very strict issue with the police.


Originally Posted by pulltabmike
Possibility that it could be the drum, a lot of people don't realize that they have to be turned too. Easier to check that than pull an axle shaft...
that is true, but dont the drums warp on the horizontal surface, not the vertical? not saying you are wrong, im just not sure.

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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pudgy Fingers
How old does a vehicle have to be to get historic tags? My parents need them I think. They have 90 and 92 Volvos.
I believe 25 years. I could be wrong though.
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pudgy Fingers
How old does a vehicle have to be to get historic tags? My parents need them I think. They have 90 and 92 Volvos.
20 years old
Historic:
  • To qualify as a historic vehicle, your vehicle must not have been substantially altered, remodeled, or remanufactured from its original construction, and must be 20 model years or older.
  • A historic vehicle 60 years or older may obtain a one-time, permanent, non-transferable registration. This vehicle registration does not qualify for specialty plates.
  • Vehicles classified as historic certifies the vehicle will be maintained for use in exhibitions, club activities, parades, tours, occasional transportation and similar uses. The vehicle owner further certifies the vehicle will not be used for general daily transportation or primarily for the transportation of passengers or property on highways. You will need to fill out the Application for Historic or Street Rod Registration (form # VR-096).
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pulltabmike
20 years old
Historic:
  • To qualify as a historic vehicle, your vehicle must not have been substantially altered, remodeled, or remanufactured from its original construction, and must be 20 model years or older.
  • A historic vehicle 60 years or older may obtain a one-time, permanent, non-transferable registration. This vehicle registration does not qualify for specialty plates.
  • Vehicles classified as historic certifies the vehicle will be maintained for use in exhibitions, club activities, parades, tours, occasional transportation and similar uses. The vehicle owner further certifies the vehicle will not be used for general daily transportation or primarily for the transportation of passengers or property on highways. You will need to fill out the Application for Historic or Street Rod Registration (form # VR-096).
ding ding ding... but like i said, rarely enforced...
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 06:57 PM
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8.25 is c clip. Possible your rear driveshaft is unbalanced. Also, with the other guys said about axle being bent..
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jakbob
20 years, but it limits how much the car can be driven. i believe MD state law says "historic tagged vehicles can only be driven on sundays" or some ****. but then again, it isnt a very strict issue with the police.




that is true, but dont the drums warp on the horizontal surface, not the vertical? not saying you are wrong, im just not sure.
Drums can wear unevenly causing an imbalance situation. Drums can warp if brakes are locked up and overheat, e-brake left on, ect. These are problems that would be noticable at a certain speed. IF he is seeing the wobble just by spinning the tire by hand, I agree that it is the axle shaft. Easier to check the drum first though...
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Pudgy Fingers
I think I need to get with you and Jakbob and figure out how to get my xj running sweet. I've about given up and I'll just run it til it don't run no more. Duke I may need your expertise too. I need a xj for dummy book. Lol.
What's it doing besides runny crappy???
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by pulltabmike
Drums can wear unevenly causing an imbalance situation. Drums can warp if brakes are locked up and overheat, e-brake left on, ect. These are problems that would be noticable at a certain speed. IF he is seeing the wobble just by spinning the tire by hand, I agree that it is the axle shaft. Easier to check the drum first though...
true. you can see the wobble, but only vibrates from 55-60 mph... how could a bad driveshaft cause wheel wobble?
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jakbob
ding ding ding... but like i said, rarely enforced...
Look at my wife's, running a 3" lift with mudders with no problems
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jakbob

true. you can see the wobble, but only vibrates from 55-60 mph... how could a bad driveshaft cause wheel wobble?
Oh, it's a wheel wobble? Sorry, then I'd have to go with axle if wheel is all tight.
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by pulltabmike
Look at my wife's, running a 3" lift with mudders with no problems
yep... im gonna throw historics on the waggy too...
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jakbob
true. you can see the wobble, but only vibrates from 55-60 mph... how could a bad driveshaft cause wheel wobble?
If it is tweaked at the hub (I betcha that is where it is bent), your gonna have some kind of movement...
If he cannot move the tire at the 3/9 position and the 12/6 position you can rule out the bearing. If he tried a different tire you can rule out imbalance, blown belt, or out of round tire. Drum could cause that problem at speed. Only thing left is axle shaft
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