Northern Utah BS thread
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From: Taylorsville, UT
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
The twist and crack thing is real, although it is not like a sardine can - it does not happen easily.
If you wheel hard, it is a very good idea to combat it. Bumpers that tie more into the "frame" than stock, sliders, and of course stiffeners like you are saying will help a lot.
Going doorless will increase the desire-ability of these upgrades, as you do lose some reinforcement without them there. But as stated, most people go doorless for visibility and for fun - not out of necessity cuz they don't work.
If you wheel hard, it is a very good idea to combat it. Bumpers that tie more into the "frame" than stock, sliders, and of course stiffeners like you are saying will help a lot.
Going doorless will increase the desire-ability of these upgrades, as you do lose some reinforcement without them there. But as stated, most people go doorless for visibility and for fun - not out of necessity cuz they don't work.
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From: Salt Lake City, UT
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
X2, I have one off of a 2001. 2 piece style Factory, had 60K on the jeep (only have the upper part that mounts to the head), was about to throw it away today. would trade you for a dvd
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From: Salt Lake City, UT
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
The twist and crack thing is real, although it is not like a sardine can - it does not happen easily.
If you wheel hard, it is a very good idea to combat it. Bumpers that tie more into the "frame" than stock, sliders, and of course stiffeners like you are saying will help a lot.
Going doorless will increase the desire-ability of these upgrades, as you do lose some reinforcement without them there. But as stated, most people go doorless for visibility and for fun - not out of necessity cuz they don't work.
If you wheel hard, it is a very good idea to combat it. Bumpers that tie more into the "frame" than stock, sliders, and of course stiffeners like you are saying will help a lot.
Going doorless will increase the desire-ability of these upgrades, as you do lose some reinforcement without them there. But as stated, most people go doorless for visibility and for fun - not out of necessity cuz they don't work.
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From: herriman
Year: 1991
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Well friday is the day im going to get the steel to fab up the tire carrior and the sliders im getting a little stoked im heading up to get ryans dom as well im stoked bout that as well cant wait till you get tgat cage built
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From: Taylorsville, UT
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
We can work out some kind of massive payment for a DVD, I am sure
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From: Salt Lake City, UT
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
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From: Utardiland
Year: whats left of a 91
Model: Cherokee
Engine: one that makes noise
Always a gray area 
Hey Derek, you know that steering thing I was doing a year ago? It might actually happen in February! Does your tube tapper have any blackout days I should stay away from that you know of? Also, is there still some DOM in your garage with my name on it?
With my tax return, after paying baby bills, I am buying Jeep stuff. Anyone else?
So far, just no-fun stuff that I need, like an exhaust manifold, motor mounts, etc.
Hey Derek, you know that steering thing I was doing a year ago? It might actually happen in February! Does your tube tapper have any blackout days I should stay away from that you know of? Also, is there still some DOM in your garage with my name on it?
With my tax return, after paying baby bills, I am buying Jeep stuff. Anyone else?
So far, just no-fun stuff that I need, like an exhaust manifold, motor mounts, etc.as for the steering, i don't know of any blackout days and i belive the DOM is still there, guess i could go look



and the doors on an XJ provide no structural support whatsoever, so weather or not they are on or off makes no difference. don't believe me? next time you drive with your window down stick your finger on the outside door seam on the A pillar and feel the body flexing.
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From: Spanish Fork, Utah
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Renix 4.0L
Originally Posted by jmaxj
you need to look at mine, its all twisted and cracked, but it has had 10 yrs of hard abuse with no stiffeners whatsoever on it.

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From: Utardiland
Year: whats left of a 91
Model: Cherokee
Engine: one that makes noise
well my body is literally breaking in half, if i'm hauling *** down a high speed 2 track and hit ruts or something hard you can actually watch my body move around the cage. its pretty funny really
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From: Spanish Fork, Utah
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
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From: Springville, UT
Year: 1993
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 5.2 V8, Dual cold air, dual batts, E-fan, Sanden OBA
Ha ha my frame had cracks all over as well, most of them I didn't find until I started plating the frame. I kinda of got used to all the creaking and groaning noises my jeep made. Gonna be wierd when they are gone
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From: Utardiland
Year: whats left of a 91
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Engine: one that makes noise
ha ha i wasn't talking about the breaks in the "frame" i just was mentioning the body cracks
the frame has it's fair share of breaks and smashes and twists also though LOL
the frame has it's fair share of breaks and smashes and twists also though LOL
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From: KEARNS, UT.
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L Inline 6
Originally Posted by Desert Rat
I'm pretty far from bada$$, but I do always try to be a positive guy on the runs and if that makes guys wanna go wheel, I'll accept that as a win!
Seems we have a bunch of new guys to the thread lately, I think we might wanna set up a spring meet and greet. Kinda like the run last April, it was a blast! It was a shakedown for Ryans new setup and a bunch a guys new to wheeling came out to join us, good times, one of my favorite runs.
Seems we have a bunch of new guys to the thread lately, I think we might wanna set up a spring meet and greet. Kinda like the run last April, it was a blast! It was a shakedown for Ryans new setup and a bunch a guys new to wheeling came out to join us, good times, one of my favorite runs.


