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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 08:38 AM
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Had to work late last night. I made $180 in Overtime so, it's all good. The only forward progress I made at all yesterday was to buy my new Battery terminal clamps...I plan on making some good progress tonight.
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 11:44 PM
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Well, it poured rain all day. I had my mind made up that I wasn't going to get any work done on the Jeep again tonight. About 6pm I went ahead and headed outside. What a cold, wet miserable day and night to be working outside in the driveway on a Jeep. Or I should say underneath a Jeep, in mud with water dripping in my eyes and ears. I decided to remove the motor mount bolts, hook up the Chery Picker and drop the transmission crossmember down. Man, there was all kinds of room to work on this stuff under my old lifted Jeep. I ended up removing the crossmember, the exhaust and the transfercase. the motor and tranny are just sitting in the old Jeep on the motor mounts and a bottle jack. Tomorrow or Friday it is already to just Hook the Cherry Picker back up, drop the jack and transmission down, remove the two torx tip bolts and lower bellhousing bolts, drop the tranny down and pull the motor out. I'm going to clean up the intake manifold mounting surface and pull off the old Valve cover and clean the gasket surface up, all before I pull it out of the old Jeep. May as well leave that mess there. Pretty sad for all the time I spent rolling around under that Jeep in the mud, water and trans oil and all I have to show for it is a pic of my transfercase. This is my good transfer case out of my old Jeep...notice the SYE. Love the day I installed that and got rid of the stock DS and slip yoke setup.
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Old Mar 7, 2013 | 12:07 PM
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Well, the weather forecast says sunny skies for Friday and Saturday. So far, it's not raining today, too. I think I'm going to get the gasket surfaces cleaned up on the motor tonight and just plan on pulling the motor out of the old Jeep, turning the Cherry Picker around and putting the motor right into the new Jeep....all tomorrow. I will get the intake manifold cleaned up, get the radiator cleaned up. Pretty much everything that has come out of my old jeep has been covered with mud, sand , dirt and grime. All combined I bet I dug, scraped and cleaned about 30 pounds of dirt and sand out of and around the belly skid plate, the crossmemebr and the transfercase area. It was definitely a combination of Elbe, Walker and Rimrock...LOL. I still need to pick up heater hose clamps, coolant and oil and filter at the parts store.
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Old Mar 7, 2013 | 05:12 PM
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Subscribed! I wonder how long it will take until you put the first dent in that pretty new Jeep. I will have to hit you up to show us around Walker once you have that thing ready to roll.
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Old Mar 7, 2013 | 07:25 PM
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i'm new to the jeep world got my XJ about a year ago it only took two days to say i love my jeep i paid 700.00 for it the kid never took care of it but i have been driving it since i got it and been working on it since just got it running like new after i put in 2gs but been thinking about a new motor myself glad i found ur thread gave me alot of info the motor in it now only has 175k running miles it was pulled by a RV for yrs got all the leaks done but 2 i cant stop rear main/VC but that's a jeep right lol i'll be putting a 3"lift on it this coming week it just came in yesterday from RC just wanted to say thank you on the motor swap info i know what im in for now lol
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 12:20 AM
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Subscribed! I wonder how long it will take until you put the first dent in that pretty new Jeep. I will have to hit you up to show us around Walker once you have that thing ready to roll.

Im guessing page 42!
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 12:33 AM
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I got right at it today as soon as I got off work today. Things did not go nearly as smooth as I expected them to especially after how good it went when I pulled the bad motor out of the new Jeep. I hooked the cherry picker up to the motor and dropped the jack down the tranny was resting on. I pulled all of the bolts out of the bellhousing (that I knew were in it) and the tranny wouldn't separate from the motor. I couldn't figure out why. It was getting dark and I was losing my patience. I just decided to pull the motor and tranny together. So, as the the front of the motor is straight up in the air, oil and tranny fluid is gushing out all over my driveway, I started removing the front clip so it would all clear. I carefully removed my IPF headlights because they are going in the new Jeep and my external aux. tranny cooler to keep as a spare. Then I basically tore the rest off. So as soon as I had the motor high enough to see, I realized that I forgot to remove the bottom center bellhousing bolt. As soon as I removed the bolt, the tranny slipped right off and I pulled the motor right out. I will be putting the motor into the new Jeep tomorrow night.
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 12:48 AM
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hey buck, a little tip that a buddy showed me to keep the cherry picker from slipping on the chain and the motor from getting super unlevel. Run a bolt through a couple links in the middle of the chain that is hooked to the motor creating a loop for the cherry picker to hook to with no chance of slipping either which way.
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 09:49 AM
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SWEET!! What a cool and simple idea. Thanks Buddy. I was pretty close to gouging my own eyes out last night, I was so pissed...LOL!!

Hopefully when I take a good look at the motor today in the daylight I won't find any surprises...like the chain was really close to crushing the front water neck and the heater hose pipe coming out of the water pump. The oil pressure sender and distributor were over on the side where the damn right side motor mount was getting hung up on the AC condenser. Hopefully everything is A-Okay. Just in case they are not, I have spares of everything from the other motor.
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 09:52 AM
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It was really sad last night. It literally looked like I was ripping the heart and sole out of my old Jeep. There was automatic tranny fluid running out from under it like it was bleeding out. I should have taken a picture but it was so dark it probably wouldnt have worked good enough to see anyway.
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by billulsund
Subscribed! I wonder how long it will take until you put the first dent in that pretty new Jeep. I will have to hit you up to show us around Walker once you have that thing ready to roll.
Hey Bill, youn know it, buddy!! I will put out a thread and the word when Great White is ready to go and we will meet for a Walker Valley run to break it in properly.
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Old Mar 9, 2013 | 01:37 AM
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So, I started off today by doing some clean-up work on the good engine out in the driveway before dropping it in Great White. It sure was a nice warm sunny day. I wish every day I've worked on this project could have been this nice.
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Old Mar 9, 2013 | 01:49 AM
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The dropping in part of this day went quick and smooth. Now the lining up of bolt holes in bellhousing ended up being a huge PITA! I bolted down the motor mounts first. This was a big mistake because I ended up getting the driver's side main bellhousing bolt started but I couldnt get the passenger side one no matter how much I muscled it. So the motor mounts came back out. The driver's side bellhousing bolt came out. I did some fancy cherry picker and bottle jack work and finally ended up getting the right angle with a little bit of muscleing to get both of the main bellhousing bolts in. After that fiasco was finally over it was dark and getting cold so I bolted the motor mounts back down and two mounted the tranny crossmember. I need to put in the rest of the bellhousing bolts and the torque converter bolts next. Then I can get to work getting this thing plumbed and wired. I can also get the hood put back on right. Well, the Attachment Manager won't let me put anymore of the pics I took on here. I don't know why. The white Jeep is backed back in the garage and the engine and tranny is 4 pointed. I will get back at it in the morning.
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Old Mar 9, 2013 | 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by BuckB91XJ
Now the lining up of bolt holes in bellhousing ended up being a huge PITA!
It ALWAYS is. When I was bolting up my NV4500 in my Ram it took me so long to line up the bellhousing to get the trans on, and that thing isn't light, either!
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Old Mar 10, 2013 | 11:48 PM
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Well, I have a pic I just took here about a half hour ago. Great White's under hood area is actually starting to resemble something that could actually run. I had a couple of learning experiences that slowed my going considerably. Not only was it a PITA to line up the bellhosing holes to put the bolts through, but once I did get them through I put all of them in and torqued them down to spec. Well, the first order of business the next day was to put in the torque converter bolts, torque them and finish buttoning up the bellhousing and under Jeep area. I found out that when all of the bellhousing bolts are tightened and torqued you cannot get the flywheel and torque converter to move independent of each other. No matter what I tried. Oh, if any of you are thinking you can go in through the CPS access and hold or turn the torque converter that way, don't try it. I ended up loosening all of the bellhousing bolts about a quarter of an inch. Then I was able to turn the flywheel without the torque converter turning. I put one of the big bolts in the bottom corner of the bellhousing so I could take my smallest pry bar and turn the flywheel about 6 teeth at a time. Then I realized I could take the same pry bar and stick in through the starter hole and turn the torque conveter and pull it closer to the flywheel to actually see the threaded holes. I finally lined up the first set of holes in the flywheel and torque converter and tightened and torqued the bolt. All of the others were easy after that. Just a matter of turning the flywheel all the way around with my small pry bar and putting in all of the bolts. Today I mounted the starter, the inspection cover, put the tranny and TC linkage back together, put up the crossmemeber and torqued it and put the CPS back in. Next, I cleaned up the valve cover, intake and exhaust manifolds. I put them all on with the new gaskets and torqued them down. Then, I went to work putting all of the vacuum lines, wiring and fuel lines on the intake. I hooked up the exhaust and the O2 senser. While I was working that side of the motor I put the PS pump on. Next I cleaned up my CFS three core radiator out of the old Jeep and put it in the new Jeep. I was going to swap this in anyway put the OEM stocker was junk when I took it out. I installed the radiator hoses and put the radiator bracket and hood latch back together. The wife called me in to eat dinner after that. I was going to call it a night but it was only 6pm so I went to work on the other side of the motor. I got the alternator and it's mount all put together and back on the motor. Next I put the AC pump and it's mount on. I was just starting to untangle the wiring mess on that side and I decided that was a good stopping place. I figure I will start fresh on the wiring tomorrow after work with clean hands.
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