Oxen__

a rover has electrical bugs like your locks and windows not working from time to time not a big deal. trans t-case and axles are stouter than the xj's are.

factory rovers flex like a xj's on long arms. dont belive it search up on youtube.

allsierra123

They also leak fluids like a bucket with no bottom in it. Lol but so does my xj

1987XJ

Your going to have a tuff time trying to win us Xj'ers to agree that land rovers are a better choice over a Cherokee.

Oxen__

Your right about that. A rover can be a pisser of leaks. But tbose ones are that way because the owners couldnt afford or neglected there rig. A vehaical can only be as good as the maintenance you put into it. I will admit there will be a few things like valve covers and front axkes seals i will have to do more often than if i was in a jeep. But whats worse a seal in my rover or with a xj possibly a broken shaft or busted u-joint. Theres problems with both rigs at times. I have enjoyed my jeep tho. It was certainly some experience i needed to do. An i hope that when it come to trail fixes or helping g some one. What i have learned will stick with me.

gilbertxj466

Yeah no kidding!! I would think, since he already has an XJ that he would use the extra cash to build it up. I've seen his, and if anything I think his setup would make the xj handle worse than when it was stock. So it's hard for me to imagine that he knows the true potential of an XJ.
By all means Dude, get yourself a land rover thingy, but don't begin talking about how there better than Jeeps. Cause maybe you didn't realize, this is a jeep forum and we don't give two ****s about a foreigners attempt at producing a jeep.

1987XJ

Changing a shaft is cake. And if a shaft should break its normal because someone has their foot smashed on the skinny pedal.

Oxen__

how dose corrected shackle angles and corrected shock angles hurt my xj? sounds like something a ignorant dumb girl would say.

you'd better add lip stick to your eye liner and high heels ha ha ha. if you think that better axle geometry hurts my rig , your opinion is null honey .

a hinged rear shackle , better shock angle my shocks are center line of the axle housing so they don't get hung up on stuff. can anyone say those things are bad? the shock angle correction has to do with making the shock work better for the speed your rolling on the trail . initial force transfer to the body is greatly reduced . that helps with flex and keeping the body from getting pushed from one side to the other by the sus and the ride quality is not jaring. that helps in turn with keeping my cab from leaning and rubbing on trees giving me more usable trail area because i dont have to worrie about if the body is going to tilt and rub a tree or a rock. wanna try your point about my rig again?

Oxen__

i'm not one to get into the gas pedal. i crawl like a snail over every thing.

1987XJ

There's no reason to get mad.

gilbertxj466

Wow dude, you should open your own shop. I had know idea you were so knowledgable in the laws of physics, statics, and dynamics. But seriously I think you're full of ****.

1987XJ

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billulsund

From what I know of your setup I would agree that it leaves some things to be desired and probably rides worse than a stock XJ. You then comment on an XJ forum saying Land Rovers are better than XJs and catch some deserved flaming. Next you defend your XJ (which you were just complaining about) by talking about your shock and shackle upgrades. I have done many mods to my XJ and there are many other things you can do that would make a much bigger improvement to how your XJ drives and functions than shock and shackle improvements. I would suggest doing some more significant improvements to your XJ before you start complaining about it on here.

tbrown206

Keep that Land Rover on the pavement not in the trails it not a SAFARI out here.

BuckB91XJ

I have those ORF quarter guards with bars on my Jeep. They have saved my windows and tail light boxes countless times.

BuckB91XJ

Oxen, yeah the Cherokeeforum wasn't the best place to say how you think Land Rovers are so much better than XJs. What I know about Land Rovers is then older ones....I'm taking like 60s and 70s models that you see in all of the old African safari documentorys and such, were very tuff rigs. The newer ones are Luxo Mall Crawler rigs just like the new Grand Cherokees are. They are plagued with electrical grimlins and fluid leaks. Just like MGs or any other British made vehicle they break down a lot and they are a B**** to fix and a B**** to get parts for. Unless you are knowledgeable in Land Rover maintenance you will spend a small fortune for any required replacement parts and another small fortune for a mechanic at your local Rover stealership who is factory trained to fix it for you at $100+ an hour. You do see a lot of Land Rovers on the roads these days in the states. Especially in the metrplolitan areas like the Seattle area because they are a favorite of the Rich B**** crowd who thinks they have to have the latest and greatest high dollar SUV to out do the Joneses. The only people you will ever see Wheeling a Land Rover is a super rich dude who happenes to be into wheeling. Because any parts, repairs, modifications, etc. that you would do to a Land Rover is at least 4 times more than the cost of doing the same thing to an XJ. Guys like you and me have XJs because guys like you and me can't afford Land Rovers. You definitely won't find any parts for your Land Rover on Craigslist or at the local junkyard, either. Just my $.02, bro. Trying to keep you from making what I think is a huge mistake. You are a grown man, though. Free to make your own decisions. I've wheeled with guys in Land Rovers before. I will still wheel with you if you get one I just won't be able to offer up my trail spares to you, anymore, when you break it because I will never be able to afford a Land Rover to thrash on the trails like I do my XJ.