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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 03:26 PM
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i have a 93 sport and it grind when going into reverse and its a ***** to put into 1st and 2nd sometimes i have to turn it off and put into gear any ideas on what the problem is?
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 07:24 PM
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I'd like to know as well, starting to have some trouble as well. Checked the Clutch res, and fluid is fine, and full.
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 08:17 PM
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Manual?

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Auto
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jeepkid420
i have a 93 sport and it grind when going into reverse and its a ***** to put into 1st and 2nd sometimes i have to turn it off and put into gear any ideas on what the problem is?
More than likely clutch replacement time. However, just because reservior is full and you see no fluid leaks doesn't mean that the slave cylinder is weak or bad.
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 08:48 PM
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 08:58 PM
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Your clutch went out, that happened to me on my way home from work one day last year when i had my S10. Had to shift without the clutch.

Sorry, does the clutch work? My clutch just totally went out, i pushed the pedal to the floor and nothing.

Dumbass before me put the clutch plate in backwards, the springs were rubbing on the flywheel. Couldn't believe it.
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 09:09 PM
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i have a 93 sport and it grind when going into reverse and its a ***** to put into 1st and 2nd sometimes i have to turn it off and put into gear any ideas on what the problem is?
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does that help?
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 03:47 AM
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Since we need to push in the CLUTCH it's Manual....but thanks for trying.


Ok, not trying to doubt anyone, just want to make 100% sure, clutch res is full and I don't have any play in the clutch, matter of fact it take more force to push down than any manual I ever drove. So does that mean it's going bad?
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 05:18 AM
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If you have the problem only in a few gears it is not the clutch. Your synchronizers are shot.
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 09:24 AM
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Maybe a transmission fluid drop and refill is in order. Add some Lucas oil stabilizer and it helps for a while, untill you can get your transmission rebuilt or replaced.
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 12:14 PM
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ya its manual and it does go into 3rd 4th and 5th fine i checked the clutch fluid and its full do u think bleeding it would help anything?
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 12:45 PM
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ya its manual and it does go into 3rd 4th and 5th fine i checked the clutch fluid and its full do u think bleeding it would help anything?
If you've always got plenty of pressure in the pedal, bleeding it isn't necessary. If your pedal randomly went to the floor, then maybe. But it does sound like your transmission. My old cherokee would grind going into reverse, and would sometimes be knotchy going into second. Like I said before, Lucas helps. But when you're going into reverse, make sure you're completely stopped and if you're starting from a stand still, sometimes putting it through some of the other gears will help get it into reverse. That being said, if you can't shift into first or second at all without cutting it off, your tranny needs to be rebuilt or replaced. And if you have a decent junk yard, you could get the same transmission with less mileage and replace it yourself. Your haynes and or chiltons manual can walk you right through it.
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 01:50 PM
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If you've always got plenty of pressure in the pedal, bleeding it isn't necessary. If your pedal randomly went to the floor, then maybe. But it does sound like your transmission. My old cherokee would grind going into reverse, and would sometimes be knotchy going into second. Like I said before, Lucas helps. But when you're going into reverse, make sure you're completely stopped and if you're starting from a stand still, sometimes putting it through some of the other gears will help get it into reverse. That being said, if you can't shift into first or second at all without cutting it off, your tranny needs to be rebuilt or replaced. And if you have a decent junk yard, you could get the same transmission with less mileage and replace it yourself. Your haynes and or chiltons manual can walk you right through it.
yeah even at a stand still it grinds into reverse and sometimes it will let me go into 1st gear like at a light pretty easily but other times i have to almost force it into gear or turn off and put in gaer ta start going and have to prety much force it into 2nd as well but 3rd threw 5th goes in fine
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 02:10 PM
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I'd vote for bad synchros, personally. Won't let the gears mesh up. First, second, and reverse seem to be the ones that've always gone first on me.

Only problem is, if it's not going into gear when your engine is off, then it's probably more than just synchros going south in your trans. if it's doing the higher gears just fine, then your clutch is most likely okay. Just my 2 cents.
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