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Old 08-27-2008, 01:52 PM
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after going to the cliffs i had to replace my altornator and get towed home!! and now i have to rip out my carpet but i want to put line x down anyway, it sucks but now my oil pressure gauge is moving around when i stop its at 0 but when i drive its back to normal WHY!! im changing my oil today and hope fully that will do somthing.

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Originally Posted by usarmy0101
after going to the cliffs i had to replace my altornator and get towed home!! and now i have to rip out my carpet but i want to put line x down anyway, it sucks but now my oil pressure gauge is moving around when i stop its at 0 but when i drive its back to normal WHY!! im changing my oil today and hope fully that will do somthing.

to look at my pictures go to www.myspace.com/xgoarmyx
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Why did the alternator go out ?

so the oil pressure gauge is a stock gauge? maybe the sending unit is bad ?

let us know how changing the oil helps
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Originally Posted by usarmy0101
after going to the cliffs i had to replace my altornator and get towed home!! and now i have to rip out my carpet but i want to put line x down anyway, it sucks but now my oil pressure gauge is moving around when i stop its at 0 but when i drive its back to normal WHY!! im changing my oil today and hope fully that will do somthing.

to look at my pictures go to www.myspace.com/xgoarmyx
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they are not
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yea i got stuck in a hole and i believe it freid out then becouse when i got pulled out my battery was at 9 v and pressure was low and yes its a stock gauge. do u think its possible that water or mud could have got in the oil
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Hate to say it but, I've seen your oil pressure gauge on more than one occasion. And all time it was cause by water being pushed into the motor through the front seal, and they all lead to spun main bearings....
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Isn't it normal to see the oil pressure go down when idling? Mine when driving stays around 55-60 psi but at idle it gets down to around 30-40 psi...
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ya idle can have little lower pressure than driving, but not 0. mud sucks. change your oil right away cuz if it is mud and water you probably already did damage.

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ya idle can have little lower pressure than driving, but not 0. mud sucks. change your oil right away cuz if it is mud and water you probably already did damage.
what damage could be done?
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Originally Posted by nick_n_ii
Hate to say it but, I've seen your oil pressure gauge on more than one occasion. And all time it was cause by water being pushed into the motor through the front seal, and they all lead to spun main bearings....
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Does your dipstick look like it has been in chocolate milk. If so then you have water in your oil. Mud might have been to large a particle to get through the seal but water certainly could. Another reason to check the pan bolts periodically.
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oil looks a little darker but not that much but do you think i should change the trans flud?
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Never hurts to change fluids especially if they are suspect. The oil being darker does not indicate water in it but change it and then see if you have any oil pressure. Usually it is the rear crackshaft bearing which dictates the oil pressure and not the front one but first lets see if an oil change helps then we can go from there.
Unless you see a change in the actions of the tranny or a change in it's color I would concentrate your time and resources on the engine first. If you were in deep water or mudd you should consider changing the differential's oil too and for future use you should extend the vent lines for them too.
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changed my oil and it doesnt move any more my trans fluid is a little bit watery but idk f i should change it soon or wait a little
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Change it. It certainly won't hurt it to have it changed.
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Originally Posted by usarmy0101
changed my oil and it doesnt move any more my trans fluid is a little bit watery but idk f i should change it soon or wait a little
what doesn't move anymore? the problem is gone? change tranny right away, water is bad for everything, and very bad for auto trans.


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