Trans Question
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Sorry, but what says in your notes is 33s
Correct.
The aw4 is a four speed transmission, (3 speed + overdrive), what could be is your converter lock-up not working.
When you are driving at 65 and you take off your foot from the accel. and put it back on what happens? does it shift shortly in 3rd and right back in 4th or does it stay in 4th?

Plus the RPM and Speed will match up. Yes the speed actuall is different but since no gear change. When the car says 65 at 3500 rpm that will say the same thing no mater the tire size b/c the gearing is still the same
I think I have my answer though. I do not have overdrive like meaning 5th gear and my tach is reading wrong.
When you are driving at 65 and you take off your foot from the accel. and put it back on what happens? does it shift shortly in 3rd and right back in 4th or does it stay in 4th?
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I will check for sure but I think it stays in the same gear. But when im going about 45 or so, that is on the guage, It will seem to shift from 4 to 3 to 4 to 3 to 4. Not like fast back and forth but it does kinda do that.
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my 97 counrty has almost the same problem, except that everything is stock and my CEl is on and it wont go into OD... just stays in 3rd at about 3100 rpm at 60 mph... i'm still trying to figure mine out too...
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It's the lock up not working. How is your kick down cable? should have an inch of play with closed throttle. If it's less then it will shift to lower gears with just a little gas.
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Ok, how about this. Tonight I was driving and trying to pay close att. to what it was doing. At about 2000 going 40mph it seemed to be in 4th. As I let off the gas is would down shift and rev up to like 2300. Then as I applied the gas back it would rev up a little and shift back to 4th and sit at 2000. Seems almost backwards that it would down shift with letting off the gas. I recently change my TPS but I made sure that the two readings were in range. Any other info. I have not checked the cable you mention due to working late and being dark. I will try to check tomorrow and let you know.
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Don't worry, it's not an everyday issue.
From Wiki:
"Lock-up torque converters
As described above, pumping losses within the torque converter reduce efficiency and generate waste heat. In modern automotive applications, this problem is commonly avoided by use of a lock-up clutch that physically links the pump and turbine, effectively changing the converter into a purely mechanical coupling. The result is no slippage, and virtually no power loss.
The first automotive application of the lock-up principle was Packard's Ultramatic transmission, introduced in 1949, which locked up the converter at cruising speeds, unlocking when the throttle was floored for quick acceleration or as the vehicle slowed down. This feature was also present in some Borg-Warner transmissions produced during the 1950s. It fell out of favor in subsequent years due to its extra complexity and cost. In the late 1970s lock-up clutches started to reappear in response to demands for improved fuel economy, and are now nearly universal in automotive applications."
Then i found an interesting thread:
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/aw4...lipping-23329/
It could be either the TPS malfunctioning or the TCC (torque converter clutch aka lockup) solenoid in the transmission that needs to be replaced.
If the lock up "sometimes" works it's prolly the tps, if it doesn't work at all its the solenoid.
also this:
http://ezinearticles.com/?Torque-Con...ckup&id=113485
From Wiki:
"Lock-up torque converters
As described above, pumping losses within the torque converter reduce efficiency and generate waste heat. In modern automotive applications, this problem is commonly avoided by use of a lock-up clutch that physically links the pump and turbine, effectively changing the converter into a purely mechanical coupling. The result is no slippage, and virtually no power loss.
The first automotive application of the lock-up principle was Packard's Ultramatic transmission, introduced in 1949, which locked up the converter at cruising speeds, unlocking when the throttle was floored for quick acceleration or as the vehicle slowed down. This feature was also present in some Borg-Warner transmissions produced during the 1950s. It fell out of favor in subsequent years due to its extra complexity and cost. In the late 1970s lock-up clutches started to reappear in response to demands for improved fuel economy, and are now nearly universal in automotive applications."
Then i found an interesting thread:
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/aw4...lipping-23329/
It could be either the TPS malfunctioning or the TCC (torque converter clutch aka lockup) solenoid in the transmission that needs to be replaced.
If the lock up "sometimes" works it's prolly the tps, if it doesn't work at all its the solenoid.
also this:
http://ezinearticles.com/?Torque-Con...ckup&id=113485


