Well thanks for all the advise. I switched them front to back as has been the practice up till now. Darn impact wrench broke half way through. One of those KOBALT products from Lowes. We'll see if they replace it. Hardly used!
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I always look to see how the tire is wearing and put the tires where they need to be to wear evenly.
For example on my liberty, becuase of the lift and out fo spec alignment the RF tires wears the inside edge. that tire ALWAYS crosses to to the LF on a rotate. my spare goes to rr, rr to rf, lf to spare. After 5 rotations every tire has been on each loctation of the vehicle.
Generally front to back is was we do at work (ntb) though.
For example on my liberty, becuase of the lift and out fo spec alignment the RF tires wears the inside edge. that tire ALWAYS crosses to to the LF on a rotate. my spare goes to rr, rr to rf, lf to spare. After 5 rotations every tire has been on each loctation of the vehicle.
Generally front to back is was we do at work (ntb) though.
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I have been in the tire business 30 + years.
I fully X mine (crossrotate) using the four on the ground.
It would take the spare 100 years to dry rot sitting in the vehicle.
(Exaggerating some)
You can go front to back if no abnormal wear is present. Its easier.
If directional, you can crossrotate to equalize heel/toe wear. But they will pack up in mud quickly.
I fully X mine (crossrotate) using the four on the ground.
It would take the spare 100 years to dry rot sitting in the vehicle.
(Exaggerating some) You can go front to back if no abnormal wear is present. Its easier.
If directional, you can crossrotate to equalize heel/toe wear. But they will pack up in mud quickly.
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Your owners manual will instruct you on the proper method. For my 96 4 door it's front to back. No side to side and front to back combo's.
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depends on the tires..on my old car (96 sebring) i got about 70,000 miles out of a set of arizonians. on my jeep i have yet to keep a set of tires until they need to be changed..lol. i had the 30x9.5 BFG muds on there and had them for a good year and a half and about 15,000 miles and they were looking about 3/4 tread when i sold them. my last set of tires i bought bald and blew one out on the trail so i got 4 pro-comp muds for a great deal with about 1/2 tread and a little more so we will see how these go. i keep all my tires at 35psi as well..even on the trails..dont have a compressor with me so i dont air down.Originally Posted by ol"blue
Just curious about your reply. How many miles do you get from a set of tires?
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Originally Posted by FlyingLow
Your owners manual will instruct you on the proper method. For my 96 4 door it's front to back. No side to side and front to back combo's.
Take the owners manual & throw it out the damn window.........
Depending on the wear pattern it is BEST to cross rotate your tires
Tires cannot think So it dose not know if it is turning one way or another... changing the direction of your tires is an urban mith.... one way for the manufacture or dealer to blame you for their tire failure
I do not have time to explain in detail why you should cross rotate other than the way the tread blocks hit the pavement will cause tread flex & will cause cupping the less sipes in your tires will determine on how fast the tire will cup out causing road noise & vibrations
IN dryer climates such as here in Phoenix run your directional tires backwards every now & then.... also if you wheel your junk running directional tires backwards increase offroad traction
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That owner's manual was written by a corporation that went bankrupt.Originally Posted by FlyingLow
Your owners manual will instruct you on the proper method. For my 96 4 door it's front to back. No side to side and front to back combo's.
TWICE
They are not tire people.
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Depending on the wear pattern it is BEST to cross rotate your tires
Tires cannot think So it dose not know if it is turning one way or another... changing the direction of your tires is an urban mith.... one way for the manufacture or dealer to blame you for their tire failure
I do not have time to explain in detail why you should cross rotate other than the way the tread blocks hit the pavement will cause tread flex & will cause cupping the less sipes in your tires will determine on how fast the tire will cup out causing road noise & vibrations
IN dryer climates such as here in Phoenix run your directional tires backwards every now & then.... also if you wheel your junk running directional tires backwards increase offroad traction
Originally Posted by RickBeer
Take the owners manual & throw it out the damn window.........Depending on the wear pattern it is BEST to cross rotate your tires
Tires cannot think So it dose not know if it is turning one way or another... changing the direction of your tires is an urban mith.... one way for the manufacture or dealer to blame you for their tire failure
I do not have time to explain in detail why you should cross rotate other than the way the tread blocks hit the pavement will cause tread flex & will cause cupping the less sipes in your tires will determine on how fast the tire will cup out causing road noise & vibrations
IN dryer climates such as here in Phoenix run your directional tires backwards every now & then.... also if you wheel your junk running directional tires backwards increase offroad traction
X2. This falls in line with what I said earlier. He said everything that I didn't have time to post.
But keep your owner's manual. You may need it to start a fire with if the wood is too wet.
Or for toilet paper out in the woods.
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TWICE
They are not tire people.
I'm sorry for the thread jack, but are you talking about the brand manual that starts with the letter H?Originally Posted by Firestorm500
That owner's manual was written by a corporation that went bankrupt.TWICE
They are not tire people.

I would agree about them not being tire ppl, but if it wasn't for my manual, I don't now what I would have done for the last 3 years!
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I would agree about them not being tire ppl, but if it wasn't for my manual, I don't now what I would have done for the last 3 years!
I think they're talking about the manual that comes with the vehicle, The Owners Manual.Originally Posted by fallenknight308
I'm sorry for the thread jack, but are you talking about the brand manual that starts with the letter H?
I would agree about them not being tire ppl, but if it wasn't for my manual, I don't now what I would have done for the last 3 years!

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They come with manuals?Originally Posted by ol"blue
I think they're talking about the manual that comes with the vehicle, The Owners Manual.

I get it, its the little moldy one you find in the glove box, or stuffed in the back.
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I fully X mine (crossrotate) using the four on the ground.
It would take the spare 100 years to dry rot sitting in the vehicle.
(Exaggerating some)
You can go front to back if no abnormal wear is present. Its easier.
If directional, you can crossrotate to equalize heel/toe wear. But they will pack up in mud quickly.
Originally Posted by Firestorm500
I have been in the tire business 30 + years.I fully X mine (crossrotate) using the four on the ground.
It would take the spare 100 years to dry rot sitting in the vehicle.
(Exaggerating some) You can go front to back if no abnormal wear is present. Its easier.
If directional, you can crossrotate to equalize heel/toe wear. But they will pack up in mud quickly.
Were do you live at were your tires do not dry rot (ozone) Here in Arizona some tires start showing ozone in less than a year severe ozone 4-6 years
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Arkansas.
The better brands do not crack as quickly, but they all eventually age. I have seen Wal-Mart and Pep Boys stuff show cracks after 6 months.
All kidding aside, tires should be replaced after 7 years of service even if they still have tread on them.
Most don't make it that long.
The better brands do not crack as quickly, but they all eventually age. I have seen Wal-Mart and Pep Boys stuff show cracks after 6 months.
All kidding aside, tires should be replaced after 7 years of service even if they still have tread on them.
Most don't make it that long.