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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Radi
That's a common trait with piston slap too, gets better as the pistons heat up and expand.
wouldn't you be able to tell be the noise that it makes cause it really sounds like a lifter tick
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
Try this. Upon startup and getting the tick, shut the engine off and wait 20 seconds. Re-start. Noise gone?
Mine still does the tick
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 11:55 PM
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Start with the known problems with cheap fixes
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by salad
And you have reason to suspect a product meant to help with worn rings would help in this situation with absolutely no technical diagnosis why exactly?

I have nothing against the stuff necessarily but this is like throwing random parts at a problem.


OP: What have you checked and what oil filter is on it? We're going to need data to help you. If you really want we can just randomly guess, but it's going to get expensive.
Ya its a FRAM but cant see why this cause be the cause of my issue but hey you guys are the experts
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 12:03 AM
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Simple answer is they're cheap **** and the manufacturing equivalent of sticking an empty toilet paper roll into a pop can.

Detailed answer is that the poor filtering media is small and very restrictive to flow and does not catch many contaminants. This means they get dirty fast, let less oil through to reach your engine, and increase the likelihood that on cold startups the filter will remain in bypass mode for a long time. That's right, if the oil is too thick (cold) and the filter is too restrictive (cardboard) you get nice unfiltered oil pumped through. They anti-drain-back valves are notoriously troublesome causing the oil to completely drain from the engine back into the sump, this causes dry starts and is a major cause of noise on startup. The construction is generally very shoddy and they are known to fall apart internally.

They used to have a good name but they're now so bad even Walmart has stopped carrying them in my area. The oil filter is so important that it doesn't make any sense to save a dollar by getting the cheapest possible. Carquest, NAPA Gold, Bosch, Purolator, WIX, Mopar, these are all decent filters.

Oil doesn't really matter that much and there's way too much literature on this subject to repost it. Just don't run 5w20 and don't run monograde SAE40.
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 12:10 AM
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ok cool well I will try this tomorrow and let you know how it works and that all makes sense SALAD much appreciated.
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 12:59 AM
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I am going to check my flexplate tomorrow...have you checked that? I believe this is some of my rattle / ticking

https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f51/ho...ocking-125547/
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by kgm
I am going to check my flexplate tomorrow...have you checked that? I believe this is some of my rattle / ticking

https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f51/ho...ocking-125547/
It's ALWAYS a good idea to check the flexplate bolts. Just flat do it. Remove each one, put LocTite on the threads and reinstall. Let's call it preventative maintenance.
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 10:29 AM
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I use engine restore, and anyone I've asked about it likes it as much as I do. It is great for high millage engines in that it keeps things well lubed by working with the oil.

Also, a small bottle of Marvel Mystery Oil is good for un-sticking lifters, helping smooth out any extra noise. (If said noise is in fact some internal sticking.)

DISCLAIMER: I am in No way a veteran, or mechanic. I work at NAPA and am able to learn a thing or two. I want to help any way I can!
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 89CherokeeLee
I use engine restore, and anyone I've asked about it likes it as much as I do. It is great for high millage engines in that it keeps things well lubed by working with the oil.

Also, a small bottle of Marvel Mystery Oil is good for un-sticking lifters, helping smooth out any extra noise. (If said noise is in fact some internal sticking.)

DISCLAIMER: I am in No way a veteran, or mechanic. I work at NAPA and am able to learn a thing or two. I want to help any way I can!
I wanna hear some more Restore success stories.
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
I wanna hear some more Restore success stories.
Are you a skeptic of the stuff? Have you heard bad things about it?
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dylanjacobus
Are you a skeptic of the stuff? Have you heard bad things about it?
Not at all. Just curious.

I'm not coming out of the closet before others!!!

I'll confess. Both my Jeeps had the tick on cold start-up.

If I shut the engines off and restarted them, the tick was gone. When warm a slight tick could be heard.

I figured what the hell and put Restore in one of them . Tick gone cold and hot. That was 2 years ago!!
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 04:31 PM
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Well I dumped a can of the stuff in 2 days ago so I will have to report back, but I have only heard good stuff. If this doesn't work I might have to do an oil change and mmo regimen.
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Old Oct 28, 2013 | 06:22 PM
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I put a bit of Marvel in my oil if I feel frisky, but I put it in my gas every fill up. Just to be sure she'll purr!
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Old Oct 28, 2013 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 89CherokeeLee
I put it in my gas every fill up.
I guess gas isn't expensive enough for some people? What the hell kind of swamp water are you filling with that you feel the need to run an additive in every single tank???
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