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are they rear shackles suppose to touch the rear frame?

Old Jun 24, 2011 | 06:46 PM
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Sorry no mechanic here, if these are not right how do I fix them? thanks
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 06:58 PM
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Stock suspension? is the rear really saggy?

Solution: fix the suspension or cut clearance.
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 4n6pc
Sorry no mechanic here, if these are not right how do I fix them? thanks
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 08:41 PM
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Cut the back of the box so they clear and get longer shackles.
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 11:39 PM
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I picked this up as a weekend project, mostly replacing broken parts sway bar links, shocks, exhaust and engine leaks now I was moving on to the suspension, when I started looking at the leafs I didn't think that they looked that way when I bought it but I wasn't sure. the leafs are not curved as I would expect them to be,, more like straight across and I don't think the shackles were against the metal like they are. If anyone doesn't mind could you tell me what parts am I looking to replace and if there is a kit that includes the leafs bolts bushings or if you have a suggestion as to where to buy the parts that would be great. thanks for all your help I really appreciate it. As it comes back to life it is turning out to be a real nice Jeep runs great now and no oil or tranny fluid on the ground.....
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Old Jun 27, 2011 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 93gc40
Cut the back of the box so they clear and get longer shackles.
I don't think cutting the back of the box is the best solution. Remove the shackle and take a look at the mounting point. Compare it to what undamaged XJ's look like and then decide how best to approach a repair. My guess is the sagging springs caused some damage to mounting point.
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Old Jun 27, 2011 | 10:08 AM
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Funny you say that "waltermitty" I was at the store and was looking for a jeep to do just that.... hopin no one asked what the hell I was doin but the one I parked next to was newer and had springs not leafs so I need to find some one who can take a pic of theirs and post it if anyone has the time. the leafs are almost straight so I may as well replace them suggestions on where to purchase??
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Old Jun 27, 2011 | 10:13 AM
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if that is stock you have MAJOR problems if those are different leafs in any way you have 1 of two things, extended shackles (i would go with boomerang shackles) or shackle relocation box
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Old Jun 27, 2011 | 03:26 PM
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how about you post a few more pics showing the entire rear suspension
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Old Jun 27, 2011 | 03:38 PM
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Are there lift blocks on it? If the springs are stock and the mounts are good then maybe the springs are shot and somone took care on the sag by putting blocks on it. Just firing that out there.
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Old Jun 27, 2011 | 04:46 PM
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Dude! I checked out your album! That is some serious rust! It appears from the photos the floor is bowed in the shackle area. It may just be the effect of a wide angle lens though. Without seeing the Jeep up close and in person I couldn't begin to offer a realistic solution to what you have going on there.

Being a unibody construction the floor plays a major role in suspension support. With that much floor rotted away I imagine the frame boxes have suffered similar damage as well.

If you know anyone in the body shop frame business and can get them to take a look it will be worth your while. Anything can be repaired or rebuilt. It just a question of time and money.

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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 08:46 PM
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I will put up some clearer pics of the shackles and leafs tomorrow 6/29 if anyone has the time to look at them, I appreciate all the input. As far as the rust I plan on buying the whole cargo area floor pan and replacing. what my thinking in cutting the pieces out was to stop the rust until I can get it done, what I cut was only what was completely rusted out. thanks again
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 09:07 PM
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Looks like boomerang shackles would be best bet on this one but id address the problem weatjer weak leafs or what def don't cutt box or any part of frame out
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 4n6pc
I will put up some clearer pics of the shackles and leafs tomorrow 6/29 if anyone has the time to look at them, I appreciate all the input. As far as the rust I plan on buying the whole cargo area floor pan and replacing. what my thinking in cutting the pieces out was to stop the rust until I can get it done, what I cut was only what was completely rusted out. thanks again
An entire pan would be an awesome resto! When you get the spot welds drilled and the floor out it will be much easier to address the unibody frame boxes. If you know someone that has a box or pan brake it will make life easier but they are not an absolute essential element. A piece of heavy angle iron will serve as a brake in a pinch...no pun intended.
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 12:12 PM
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I had to google Box or pan brake,,,, I am going to just replace the floor with a new cargo floor pan but first I am going to replace the leafs I found them on ebay for 106.00 each. let me know if you know anywhere cheaper otherwise I will order them tuesday. thanks for all your help
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