Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

there is no such thing as a body lift for an xj

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 2, 2010 | 01:23 PM
  #1  
VTJeep's Avatar
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 4,930
Likes: 3
From: 802
Year: 99
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default there is no such thing as a body lift for an xj

my 99 xj has a 2 inch body lift. why was i "told" that this does not exist... im wondering if it was some form of sarcasm that contained an answer like "body lift is retarded" or "body lift wont work for what your doing"

what is he doing, you ask? well, im trying to see if 31x1050r15's will fit with out actual lift or triming. can i get a straigh answer? and thanks to thoes who chose to answer in a fashion that wont raise my blod preasure!

oh yea, sorry for another tread about lift, but i was sick of only one or two ppl looking at it...
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2010 | 01:26 PM
  #2  
Gee oh Dee's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 21,168
Likes: 5
From: Milwaukee, WI
Year: 1987
Engine: Check
Default

I don't think it was sarcasm.

These Cherokees don't have a traditional frame, they are unibody. So the frame and body are not seperate, and you can't seperate them.

So for what you are thinking you can't accomplish getting any lift by putting spacers between the frame and body, its not possible.

You would have to get different leaf springs for your rear, or shakles. You would also have to get spacers for your coil springs for your front.

Hope this helps clearify things!
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2010 | 01:28 PM
  #3  
VTJeep's Avatar
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 4,930
Likes: 3
From: 802
Year: 99
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

yea, it was a terminlogy thing. its a budget lift, not body... but can i fit the 31's???????????
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2010 | 01:30 PM
  #4  
Metlic53's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,262
Likes: 0
From: Conroe, Texas
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: I6
Default

i rubbed a little when i had 31's on my 3 inch lift. but not much at all. but i didnt have stock wheels.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2010 | 01:33 PM
  #5  
VTJeep's Avatar
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 4,930
Likes: 3
From: 802
Year: 99
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

huh... ill be running the stock 15x7's for now, and there is a tiny bit of scrub on the drivers side when fully turned left. but oh well... jeep, not jag!
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2010 | 01:50 PM
  #6  
dukie564's Avatar
☠ CF Sheriff ☠
Premium Member
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 15,197
Likes: 18
From: Aberdeen, MD
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO I-6, 703 Injectors, Brown Dog Super Engine Mounts
Default

they will not fit w/o a lift. Even if you hack the heck out of your wheelwells
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2010 | 01:53 PM
  #7  
BLACKSPORT's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 562
Likes: 0
Default

you'll rub the control arms with the stock wheels. I have seen people fit 30s on no lift but probably rub pretty often. So i would think 31s will be fine with a budget boost. But you just wont want to turn full lock to lock as you will rub those arms for sure
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2010 | 01:55 PM
  #8  
rideordie66's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 850
Likes: 4
From: Arcata California
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

a two inch lift will fit 30 inch tires but 31 will require a little bit of trimming.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2010 | 02:33 PM
  #9  
00jeepXJ's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,601
Likes: 1
From: Kalamazoo, MI
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L with throttle body spacer and cold air intake, bored throttle body, #784 injector upgrade
Default

have 3.5" on mine and fit 31's perfectly until i start to flex... then i rub on the inside of the wheel well.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2010 | 02:38 PM
  #10  
VTJeep's Avatar
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 4,930
Likes: 3
From: 802
Year: 99
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

looks like i better put the 31's on hold and work on that lift first... any good suggestions for a 3-3.5" lift? ive looked on rustys offroad and rough country a little, but any suggestions would be cool!
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2010 | 02:56 PM
  #11  
no rdplz's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 5,482
Likes: 25
From: Virginia Beach by way of Michigan
Default

31's will fit with a 2" BB lift and on your stock 15x7 rims. However, they will rub on the LCA's at full lock and any time you flex the front axle. A 3" lift will clear your 31's, but you'll still have the same issue with rubbing at full lock. There are two ways to fix this:
1) 1.25" wheel spacers. This is, in all honesty, a bandaid fix and even though it works, I would opt for #2 if possible. I currently have 1.25" spacers, but am saving up for a set of backspaced rims so I can lose the spacers.
2) Properly backspaced rims. You'll want to find a rim that has at least 3.75" backspacing. Lug pattern 5x4.5, and a 15x8 size. You could go with a wider rim, but then your tire sidewall doesn't protect the edge of the rim as much.

As for rubbing while flexing, you may still get some rubbing on the front bumper caps. Easiest fix is to remove them but it looks like crap IMO. Do a nice trim job on them, and you'll keep a "finished" look to your XJ and not have to worry about rubbing anymore.

If you're looking at a 3" lift, Rough Country (RC), Rusty's, and Rubicon Express (RE) are going to be the top three recommended. RC is going to be your cheapest kit. In my experience they ride a little rougher than Rusty's, but performance and quality are about the same between the two. Rusty's is going to be your "middle ground" for price. I paid the extra $$ on Rusty's 3" for the better ride and have been extremely pleased with how it's performed on and off the road. RE is going to be the most expensive of the three. Some swear by it, but from what I've seen, it's no different than the other two except in price. It's the most established of the three, so you're pretty much buying the name IMO.

Hope this helps.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2010 | 02:56 PM
  #12  
Bellkrank's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 176
Likes: 1
From: Traverse City MI/Kodiak AK
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6
Default

Originally Posted by VTJeep
looks like i better put the 31's on hold and work on that lift first... any good suggestions for a 3-3.5" lift? ive looked on rustys offroad and rough country a little, but any suggestions would be cool!
I put a 3.5" Rubicon express on my 2000 with 31x10.50 BFG's. IMO looks great and works even better then i expected! very little trimming. only about half inch of plastic on passenger side.
Attached Thumbnails there is no such thing as a body lift for an xj-p8020848.2.jpg  
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2010 | 02:58 PM
  #13  
mwdouglas's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,010
Likes: 0
From: gloucester va
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

x2 with no rdz
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2010 | 04:36 PM
  #14  
Gee oh Dee's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 21,168
Likes: 5
From: Milwaukee, WI
Year: 1987
Engine: Check
Default

Originally Posted by no rdplz
If you're looking at a 3" lift, Rough Country (RC), Rusty's, and Rubicon Express (RE) are going to be the top three recommended. RC is going to be your cheapest kit. In my experience they ride a little rougher than Rusty's, but performance and quality are about the same between the two. Rusty's is going to be your "middle ground" for price. I paid the extra $$ on Rusty's 3" for the better ride and have been extremely pleased with how it's performed on and off the road. RE is going to be the most expensive of the three. Some swear by it, but from what I've seen, it's no different than the other two except in price. It's the most established of the three, so you're pretty much buying the name IMO.

Hope this helps.

BDS suspension is one that is often suggested. They are a great option for a lower budget lift, and its a high quality kit.

I run BDS.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2010 | 04:59 PM
  #15  
Metmknice's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,127
Likes: 2
From: Hell, CA
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6
Default

If you extend your bump stops then there should be minimal to no rub with uptravel. Turning is a different story, just do not turn full lock
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:55 AM.