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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 02:10 PM
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If I was to install a SYE, would I need to modify the drive shaft at all or should it just bolt in place(after removing the slip yoke from the drive shaft that is)?

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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 03:18 PM
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No, you will have to modify the driveshaft or with some of the sye kits you can use another front driveshaft for the rear
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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 03:31 PM
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Depending on handiness, you can do a hack and tap SYE. you cut your output shaft to about half length, tap it, install kit.
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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 06:05 PM
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You cant yourself modify the drive shaft, unless you can balance it and really weld ( and not the backyard welding) you either can have one made or do like the two above suggestions.gl
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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 06:06 PM
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You don't mod drive shaft, you mod the output shaft with splines on it..
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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 08:54 PM
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If you go with an SYE you absolutely have to change driveshafts. You will go from a single u joint upper joint to a double. You will have to do this because only the double cardan u joint will bolt to the yoke on the tcase end. The little straps will not fit without modification. And even if it did, you now have to have a slip joint in the drive shaft anyway.

You will also have to tip the pinion up to where the other joint has little or no angle between the shaft and pinion.
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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 4.3L XJ
If you go with an SYE you absolutely have to change driveshafts. You will go from a single u joint upper joint to a double.
the double u joint, is it the same as the front drive shaft double u joint? trying to picture what you are talking about. didnt realize all this would be involved.

just read this ( http://liftyourxj.com/sye ) and its answered a lot of questions. thanks for input everyone!

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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by kissthis66
the double u joint, is it the same as the front drive shaft double u joint? trying to picture what you are talking about. didnt realize all this would be involved.
Yes.
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Old Sep 30, 2011 | 11:45 PM
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was just checking out the tom woods web site for drive shafts, $300 and im set. think i will be calling in an order soon =)
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Old Sep 30, 2011 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 4.3L XJ
You will also have to tip the pinion up to where the other joint has little or no angle between the shaft and pinion.
Is this due to the shorter drive shaft that will be put in, causing the angle to increase, thus tipping the pinion angle upward to compensate? or am I totally off on that...
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 413maxwedge
You cant yourself modify the drive shaft, unless you can balance it and really weld ( and not the backyard welding) you either can have one made or do like the two above suggestions.gl

how would you classify me. I know I can really weld, in my backyard, or front yard, or garage. (see links below)

I cut down a driveshaft and re welded it myself on my hot rod s10. 7000 rpm 130mph NO VIBES. shes smooth as a babys bottom, But ofcourse this wasnt my first time at the ball lol.

This being said, unless you know what you are doing and can really weld. Don't bother messing with driveshafts.

As for the SYE question. get a hack and tap, they are cheaper, and then a FRONT driveshaft will BOLT in place of the rear shaft.

I just did the dirt bound hack and tap with a front driveshaft in my rig this week.
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 07:10 AM
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how would you classify me. I know I can really weld, in my backyard, or front yard, or garage. (see links below)

I cut down a driveshaft and re welded it myself on my hot rod s10. 7000 rpm 130mph NO VIBES. shes smooth as a babys bottom, But ofcourse this wasnt my first time at the ball lol.

This being said, unless you know what you are doing and can really weld. Don't bother messing with driveshafts.

As for the SYE question. get a hack and tap, they are cheaper, and then a FRONT driveshaft will BOLT in place of the rear shaft.

I just did the dirt bound hack and tap with a front driveshaft in my rig this week.
Hmmm I can't classify you if I don't know you now can I. I was stating a simple fact that applys to 9 out of 10 people, now stop being an Name:  asshat.gif
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Size:  3.4 KB(j/k) nothing was met to insult anyone, just that to many people try to do things they know they shouldn't do. A drive shaft done wrong could result in a breakage at 60 mph an kill them or someone else or just cause injury. ( don't wish it on anyone) but it does happen.So again no insult meant but common sense is needed and from what I've seen in the generation currently it is lacking big time.
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by kissthis66
was just checking out the tom woods web site for drive shafts, $300 and im set. think i will be calling in an order soon =)
Tom Woods is a good outfit and makes nice heavy shafts, much stronger than the stock shafts. You won't be disappointed.
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 4.3L XJ
Tom Woods is a good outfit and makes nice heavy shafts, much stronger than the stock shafts. You won't be disappointed.
ya, there name has come up a lot on this forum, so i figure if everyone speaks so highly of them, they gotta be good.
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