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Old May 13, 2014 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Young wheeler
I use ams oil in all of my cars and trucks and I don't have to change my oil for 15,000 .but if you have any leaks a synthetic will still leak through. or if you have an old gasket it can sometimes make a leak happen. I put ams oil in my 92 ford and drove from N.C to Vegas wit no problems at all
Amsoil is one of the worst scams ever perpetrated on the motoring public. Get that stuff out of there and put in a real oil (or synthetic).
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Old May 13, 2014 | 10:54 AM
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I just did an oil change on my Jeep to go to smog. Need one more quart. Can I add a quart of the Rotella t6 to the synthetic, Shell Platinum I put in? Any issues?
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Old May 13, 2014 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Strmtrooper70
Defy has a bit higher levels of zddp than the over glorified rotella that's not the same rotella any more. Here's a oil analasys of defy look for rotella's 15w40 analasys you'll be surprised.
I am very familiar with oil ****ysis

I took another look and it appears as though the test I pulled my data from may be flawed. However, yours appears off as well as I've never seen TBN that low on a VOA... I will review the data I have collected for QS Defy when I update to include member-requested information.

Regardless, QS Defy's ZDDP still pales in comparison to any mixed-fleet dual-licensed HDEO on the market, so I'm not sure where you get "higher than over glorified rotella" from.

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There u go again, killing a perfectly good oil thread that is so full of BS, so full of opinions and so full of love stories between motors and oil. I mean, where does the ridiculousness stop. Thank you so much.......party pooper.
Sorry dude lol

Originally Posted by jmrec100
I just did an oil change on my Jeep to go to smog. Need one more quart. Can I add a quart of the Rotella t6 to the synthetic, Shell Platinum I put in? Any issues?
No idea what Shell Platinum is but I wouldn't be worried about adding a single quart of another oil from the same manufacturer.
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Old May 13, 2014 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by salad
Originally Posted by Strmtrooper70
Defy has a bit higher levels of zddp than the over glorified rotella that's not the same rotella any more. Here's a oil analasys of defy look for rotella's 15w40 analasys you'll be surprised.
I am very familiar with ****ysis
Fixed it for ya
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Old May 13, 2014 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Epk5150
I plan on sending in my old oil to get it tested so I will let you guys know the results. After 5000 with the Rotella I will get another test done so you all can compare.
Will the next UOA be from the XJ? Conditions inside a scooter motor r a little different than those inside a car motor.
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Old May 13, 2014 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by djb383
.....might be worth something too since it is obsolete in engines built after 1930......but hey, a tractor motor is a tractor motor, right?.....so it should work fine.

I guess some folks just can't see the advantage of a 0W or a 5W oil flowing to the top of the motor (the valve train) quicker than 10W.

Don't feel bad, I only run 0w-30 all year long.
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Old May 13, 2014 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by djb383
Will the next UOA be from the XJ? Conditions inside a scooter motor r a little different than those inside a car motor.
I'm confused. What else would I be pulling the oil from? Who said anything about a scooter?
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Old May 13, 2014 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Epk5150
I'm confused. What else would I be pulling the oil from? Who said anything about a scooter?
Originally Posted by Epk5150
This is the most recent I could find... looks good to me but i am definitely not an expert.
I'm just asking.......the UOA in your post is from a scooter.
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Old May 13, 2014 | 01:52 PM
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Oh that's why I was confused. Not really a scooter though. It is from a 1300cc (80 cubic inch) Vtwin motorcycle and the reason I posted that was because someone mentioned the zinc levels in the newer Rotella oils arent what they used to be. Even though this isn't a VOA the zinc levels are still acceptable according to Salads article. Another reason I posted that is because the analysis date is August 2012 so its less than two years old and therefore being the most relevant to aforementioned complaint about Rotella. Sorry for the long desription but I just wanted to be clear.

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Old May 13, 2014 | 02:04 PM
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Here is another one for comparisons sake.

2007 Duramax LBZ. 6,600 miles on sample. 81,146 on engine. About a quart of makeup oil added during run. Hard towing in hot weather on this sample.

ALUMINUM 1
CHROMIUM 0
IRON 13
COPPER 5
LEAD 0
TIN 0
MOLYBDENUM 3
NICKEL 0
MANGANESE 0
SILVER 0
POTASSIUM 7
BORON 27
SILICON 4
SODIUM 2
CALCIUM 2416
MAGNESIUM 38
PHOSPHORUS 1032
ZINC 1223
BARIUM 0

SUS VISCOSITY @ 210 F 81.1
CST VISCOSITY @ 100 C 15.80
FLASHPOINT 410
FUEL % TRACE
ANTIFREEZE 0.0
WATER % 0.0
INSOLUBLES % 0.1
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Old May 13, 2014 | 02:19 PM
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Our whole family has been riding for years.......anything with 2 wheels, we refer to it as a scooter(s), even a Goldwing.
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Old May 13, 2014 | 03:57 PM
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hahahahaha thats awesome
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Old May 14, 2014 | 09:45 PM
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An observation... Many complain of synthetic making leaks worse... Why not replace the offending seals and gaskets? That is what I did and amazing! My jeep is leak free with t6 in the crankcase. None of them are that hard to change dirty but not hard.
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Old May 15, 2014 | 03:44 AM
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Before anyone jumps on the bandwagon (especially the rotella route) consider what there is to gain. Noisier valve train and accelerated and or new leaks are a distinct possibility. Some swear by it. Roll the dice if you wish, but the writings on the wall.
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Old May 15, 2014 | 06:32 AM
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That's been known to happen with a lot of oils, conventional included. I can't remember how many threads I've seen where someone simply changed brand and had problems.

Not every engine likes the same oils the same way. No idea why this is, but it makes an accurate recommendation impossible.
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