Steering Upgrade
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Year: 1996
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Ok, Steering gear box is leaking pretty bad. Steering is wandering (what I consider) a descent amount on the highway, before it's responsive. I'm wanting to do some upgrades and have a logical path forward, at this point.
Anything else, within reason, I can do while I'm in there (always better to do things while the major components are off)?
Any particular brands of the gearbox brace?
Another slightly on topic question: I had someone build me a very nice bumper (non winch, pre-running type stinger. light tabs) on the cheap, but he didn't do anything major with bracing where the bumper would mount to the normally. Is there a universal bumper mount brace that I can get (I know that these braces also play a key with bracing the gearbox), or will the gearbox brace suffice?
- Steering Gearbox Brace
- Steering Gearbox
- ZJ Steering Upgrade
Anything else, within reason, I can do while I'm in there (always better to do things while the major components are off)?
Any particular brands of the gearbox brace?
Another slightly on topic question: I had someone build me a very nice bumper (non winch, pre-running type stinger. light tabs) on the cheap, but he didn't do anything major with bracing where the bumper would mount to the normally. Is there a universal bumper mount brace that I can get (I know that these braces also play a key with bracing the gearbox), or will the gearbox brace suffice?
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Track bar is brand new. Don't remember if I replaced steering stabilizer when I threw it out, but will look into that, however the steering stabilizer is really just a crutch to mask/help with bad steering/alignment geometry.
The steering stabilizer doesnt do anything to change the steering geometry haha
It just helps reduce bump steer, which would be useful if you have larger than stock tires.
Not sure why youre mentioning a track bar?
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While the steering stabilizer does dampen some of the unwanted shake, it's really just a crutch that masks problems in the geometry (I never said it changed the geometry). Basically what I am saying is that if the geometry is so bad that I HAVE to use the steering stabilizer because without it, things would be crazy, it would be better for me to fix the geometry (which is what I would do).
Also, the reason I mentioned the trackbar is because the steering stabilizer attaches to it. When I changed it out, I wasn't sure if I put a new one on or not, is what I stated.
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The design of a swaybar has nothing to do with wandering, however maybe you're taking my definition of wandering slightly different that what I am. The function of a swapbar is the transfer load to the other side of the suspension (left to right and vise versa) when one side is pre-loaded more than the other.
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Get some bumper brackets that tie into the frame
Like these
http://www.dirtboundoffroad.com/buil...mper-brackets/
Jcr and ajs off road sell them as well
Edit
looks like Nates sells them for 50 bucks and free shipping probably the best deal
http://www.nates4x4.com/ProductDetai...ctCode=XJF_BRK
Like these
http://www.dirtboundoffroad.com/buil...mper-brackets/
Jcr and ajs off road sell them as well
Edit
looks like Nates sells them for 50 bucks and free shipping probably the best deal
http://www.nates4x4.com/ProductDetai...ctCode=XJF_BRK
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Year: 1996
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Get some bumper brackets that tie into the frame
Like these
http://www.dirtboundoffroad.com/buil...mper-brackets/
Jcr and ajs off road sell them as well
Edit
looks like Nates sells them for 50 bucks and free shipping probably the best deal
http://www.nates4x4.com/ProductDetai...ctCode=XJF_BRK
Like these
http://www.dirtboundoffroad.com/buil...mper-brackets/
Jcr and ajs off road sell them as well
Edit
looks like Nates sells them for 50 bucks and free shipping probably the best deal
http://www.nates4x4.com/ProductDetai...ctCode=XJF_BRK
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What's everyone think of running these:
Jeep Cherokee XJ Crusader Uniframe Reinforcement Kit
And this:
XJ Cherokee Steering Box Spacer
Jeep Cherokee XJ Crusader Uniframe Reinforcement Kit
And this:
XJ Cherokee Steering Box Spacer
Sway bar transfers load from one side to another... exactly.
One side could be under load while the other side does what it wants.
(i.e driving on a slanted road without a sway bar attached would pull one way)
How do I know this? I drive without a front sway bar and it wanders everywhere.
I see youre on 31s. I bet you get alot of bump steer without a stabilizer. I drove around for 2 months on 31s without one also. Over large bumps my steering wheel would do what it wanted to. They actually help. Its not a bandaid, its there to reduce bump steer
One side could be under load while the other side does what it wants.
(i.e driving on a slanted road without a sway bar attached would pull one way)
How do I know this? I drive without a front sway bar and it wanders everywhere.
I see youre on 31s. I bet you get alot of bump steer without a stabilizer. I drove around for 2 months on 31s without one also. Over large bumps my steering wheel would do what it wanted to. They actually help. Its not a bandaid, its there to reduce bump steer
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Sway bar transfers load from one side to another... exactly.
One side could be under load while the other side does what it wants.
(i.e driving on a slanted road without a sway bar attached would pull one way)
How do I know this? I drive without a front sway bar and it wanders everywhere.
I see youre on 31s. I bet you get alot of bump steer without a stabilizer. I drove around for 2 months on 31s without one also. Over large bumps my steering wheel would do what it wanted to. They actually help. Its not a bandaid, its there to reduce bump steer
One side could be under load while the other side does what it wants.
(i.e driving on a slanted road without a sway bar attached would pull one way)
How do I know this? I drive without a front sway bar and it wanders everywhere.
I see youre on 31s. I bet you get alot of bump steer without a stabilizer. I drove around for 2 months on 31s without one also. Over large bumps my steering wheel would do what it wanted to. They actually help. Its not a bandaid, its there to reduce bump steer
Wonder if it would be overkill to also run the steering box "snout" brace that attaches to both frame rails kinda like a panhard bar?
I think rustys and a few other companies make a brace already like this
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