Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

shock absorber screws

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 6, 2024 | 12:00 PM
  #1  
romandian's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 23
Likes: 2
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default shock absorber screws

on the 1998 xj the two rear shock upper bolt heads twisted off on one side. will probably be same on other side, no way to get them out.

is there enough meat to drill out and enlarge the thread to m10 (from m8) or are these just some thin walled inserts? in that case the only other option i see is to try welding on studs.

thoughts?
Reply
Old May 6, 2024 | 12:20 PM
  #2  
XJlimitedx99's Avatar
CF Veteran
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,132
Likes: 355
From: Andover, VT
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0 L
Default

Use an air hammer to break off the captive nuts. Then you can either use new bolts and nuts, accessing the head of the bolt on the inside by slipping a wrench through a hole in the crossmember, or use something like this:
Amazon Amazon
Reply
Old May 6, 2024 | 04:44 PM
  #3  
IJM's Avatar
IJM
CF Veteran
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,527
Likes: 349
From: District of Columbia
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by romandian
on the 1998 xj the two rear shock upper bolt heads twisted off on one side. will probably be same on other side, no way to get them out.

is there enough meat to drill out and enlarge the thread to m10 (from m8) or are these just some thin walled inserts? in that case the only other option i see is to try welding on studs.

thoughts?
Welcome to the club, lol.
Reply
Old May 6, 2024 | 05:02 PM
  #4  
TrailerTrash's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 2,215
Likes: 635
From: Hangover, PA
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Originally Posted by XJlimitedx99
Use an air hammer to break off the captive nuts. Then you can either use new bolts and nuts, accessing the head of the bolt on the inside by slipping a wrench through a hole in the crossmember, or use something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/YHB-Rear-Comp...UaAr72EALw_wcB
do this.
I did this exactly.
Reply
Old May 6, 2024 | 05:57 PM
  #5  
97grand4.0's Avatar
CF Veteran
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 2,856
Likes: 201
From: syracuse ny
Year: 1997
Model: Grand Cherokee (ZJ)
Engine: 4.0, new lifters valve job with new springs and exhaust valves, preload set with shims
Default

I pounded out all 4 of mine last week using a hammer and 10” chisel. No picnic. A multi day event in fact.Then just scotch tape new 5/16 bolts to a wrench and drop them down.
Reply
Old May 6, 2024 | 09:57 PM
  #6  
romandian's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 23
Likes: 2
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

i dont have an air chisel and just a small compressor for tires. how hard is it to get rid of the nuts with a hammer?

edit: upon inspection the portruding screws seem to be contacting the upper sheet metal. so i dont know how how the nuts would react to pounding. but others have done it, right? is there any sign of the screws in the trunk (before i rip out the carpeting)?

Last edited by romandian; May 6, 2024 at 10:21 PM.
Reply
Old May 6, 2024 | 11:20 PM
  #7  
exasemech's Avatar
Senior Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 970
Likes: 473
From: North East USA
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by romandian
i dont have an air chisel and just a small compressor for tires. how hard is it to get rid of the nuts with a hammer?

edit: upon inspection the portruding screws seem to be contacting the upper sheet metal. so i dont know how how the nuts would react to pounding. but others have done it, right? is there any sign of the screws in the trunk (before i rip out the carpeting)?
No, you can't get àt them from the inside. If you hit them hard enough with a punch and hammer they will break away. Hammering uphill while laying on your back builds character.
Reply
Old May 7, 2024 | 05:44 AM
  #8  
97grand4.0's Avatar
CF Veteran
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 2,856
Likes: 201
From: syracuse ny
Year: 1997
Model: Grand Cherokee (ZJ)
Engine: 4.0, new lifters valve job with new springs and exhaust valves, preload set with shims
Default

Yep what he said. I also heated with a propane torch. Hot as you can get them, gas tank out. What helped also was raising it high enough to get a good swing. You really need some blows on it. On the passenger side I also had to cut the back exhaust hanger and pull it out of the way with some wire. I’m not gonna lie it’s a true PITA but if you have self discipline and patience and perseverance they come out. After you get the first one it’s a confidence builder. You’ll be a better person in the end.
Reply
Old May 7, 2024 | 06:34 AM
  #9  
Dave51's Avatar
CF Veteran
5 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 3,402
Likes: 394
From: Connecticut
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Air chisel is 17 bucks at Harbor Freight. Chisel kit 7 bucks.

An air compressor is an essential tool.

Air chisel trick takes seconds.

How much is your time and staying free of aggravation worth?

Flintstone mechanic.
Reply
Old May 7, 2024 | 06:46 AM
  #10  
97grand4.0's Avatar
CF Veteran
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 2,856
Likes: 201
From: syracuse ny
Year: 1997
Model: Grand Cherokee (ZJ)
Engine: 4.0, new lifters valve job with new springs and exhaust valves, preload set with shims
Default

You’re no fun.
Reply
Old May 7, 2024 | 10:59 AM
  #11  
romandian's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 23
Likes: 2
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

thank you so much everbody.

it was quite an easy job in the end. those nuts are only weakly tacked somehow, two good spot welds would have survived the procedure.

i used a 900w construction-hammer grinding the tip of the chisel a bit flat. 3 nuts came out after about 20 seconds each, the fourth screw twisted off convex and portruded a bit. i had to grind it concave with my chinese dremmel-on-steroids and a carbide bit. on top of that the air hammer gave up the ghost, so i finisched it off with a hammer. actually i guess this can be done with a hammer only. the screws are very short, i was wrong before.

i fished out 2 of the nuts, 2 "disappeared".
Reply
Old May 8, 2024 | 10:16 PM
  #12  
romandian's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 23
Likes: 2
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

so i glued in four ss m10 studs into flange nuts and and milled 7mm flats on the ends. had to grind one slot in the whishbone a bit longer. now the instal is super easy.

first i tried to handle the nuts with a magnet but used a wrench in the end. one of the nuts is easy and can be inserted by taping it to a box wrench (angle is just right). the other one needs an open wrench (cant lift the box wrench) and its a bit finicky to get the nut at the proper angle but can be done. if i had to do this repeatedly i would bend a wrench to suit (17mm).

Last edited by romandian; May 8, 2024 at 11:11 PM.
Reply
Old May 8, 2024 | 11:43 PM
  #13  
tlc1976's Avatar
Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2023
Posts: 206
Likes: 101
From: Tip of the mitt, Michigan
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

My floor was rotted anyway so it was easy to get to them from the top. After replacing the floor, I planned on drilling 1 inch access holes and installing rubber plugs, but then I discovered the flag nuts in the Amazon link. So quick and easy.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
BimmerJeeper
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
160
Dec 30, 2013 03:49 PM
Varun
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
2
Mar 8, 2013 11:40 PM
tntxj91
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
10
Aug 4, 2010 01:43 AM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:43 AM.