Seeking Opinions on Keep XJ or Not
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Go to Robby Layton's You Tube Channel and read everything on The Banana. Like:
IIWM I'd go down the junkyard and get a roof panel (I can't find a new panel for a later XJ, but they may be around somewhere). That would be easier, quicker, and have a better-looking result.
I would consider cutting the support posts from a donor and replacing the whole thing in one piece (although those door frames would be somewhat hidden so you'd have some leeway in re: aesthetics).
Or if you got that much cash lying around find the donor top and have the body shop do it.
IIWM I'd go down the junkyard and get a roof panel (I can't find a new panel for a later XJ, but they may be around somewhere). That would be easier, quicker, and have a better-looking result.
I would consider cutting the support posts from a donor and replacing the whole thing in one piece (although those door frames would be somewhat hidden so you'd have some leeway in re: aesthetics).
Or if you got that much cash lying around find the donor top and have the body shop do it.
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Learn to become a auto body tec, mechanical tec and take a lot of time - or source a better body that needs an engine and swap this engine one into the better body- the sole of your old sentimental XJ remains - with new freeze plugs and a few other things easy to change while it's out
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There is just something about our old XJs.
That being said... another big PLUS in my book with keeping the XJ is that for anyone good with a wrench, or willing to learn.... there's not much on the entire Jeep that you can't replace yourself. Can't say that about most modern cars/trucks with all the computer modules and such on them.
Where you need very expensive diagnostic equipment to even start working on them. and often special expensive unique tools too.
Plus.... every time my wife says we should sell the Jeep and get a truck.... the ole XJ proves her wrong
Thats a good underside for a USA truck, no salt roads clearly.
Better than almost everyone posts with the same question as you !
Having said that, the roof repairs are no snack.
Its a "project" for sure
A roof cut would be best to obtain for simplicity and just in case
I repaired the back roof section on my previous XJ, I did a cut from wreck and welded the section in. It took time and precision, but it was a very good job imo, and could not be noticed
XJ sheetmetal is ok thickness, so its a matter of practice MIG welding little bits of XJ scrap, till you are confident.
MIG is tricky to do beads that dont burn through, imo, you really should use shield gas, not flux wire, but either way is possible. Cant use arc
One way if you are a **** welder is prep everything, tack weld, then have a pro mobile welder finish out the seams
If I get the chance, I will link the bloke I mentioned, his way of welding in repair sections is brilliant, he has a lifetime of experience, unbelievable actually
Better than almost everyone posts with the same question as you !
Having said that, the roof repairs are no snack.
Its a "project" for sure
A roof cut would be best to obtain for simplicity and just in case
I repaired the back roof section on my previous XJ, I did a cut from wreck and welded the section in. It took time and precision, but it was a very good job imo, and could not be noticed
XJ sheetmetal is ok thickness, so its a matter of practice MIG welding little bits of XJ scrap, till you are confident.
MIG is tricky to do beads that dont burn through, imo, you really should use shield gas, not flux wire, but either way is possible. Cant use arc
One way if you are a **** welder is prep everything, tack weld, then have a pro mobile welder finish out the seams
If I get the chance, I will link the bloke I mentioned, his way of welding in repair sections is brilliant, he has a lifetime of experience, unbelievable actually
the welding and rust is what really intimidates me. I feel comfortable I can figure out basically everything else after watching some youtubes. if not for the rust I'm not even asking the question I think.
Fitzee's Fabrications - YouTube
The way he uses a grinder with thin cutting blades to allow for tight butt welds is a revelation, that is the technique you would have to use for your repairs
Maybe it is too hard to do that welding, its taken me 30 yrs to be of "acceptable" quality
You have the equipment, so all you can do is practice welding scrap
You also need good finishing equipment, as smoothing out the weld seams is very tedious.
Top quality MIG weld repair can end up sanded to smooth shiny metal, without any filler needed, just primer
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To be blunt - if you aren't going to make the time or progression to making it how you want then move along without it.
You can talk about wanting to do all kinds of things to it but unless you are making it happen your just fooling yourself.
Doesnt necessarily mean you have to get these things done immediately but if your are not making the space available to do the work and collecting the tools or parts needed; instead your just telling yourself time after time "I really want to do XYZ" I'd say your just lying to yourself.
Now on the other hand if your honestly waiting on better opportunities to make the task more achievable and it just needs to sit for another month/year or 2 then I suppose theres nothing wrong with that, you own it and it owes you nothing BUT again if you set some time frame goals and when the time comes - you default to excuses vs doing the deed - then it's time to let it go because your clearly more driven by other things
You can talk about wanting to do all kinds of things to it but unless you are making it happen your just fooling yourself.
Doesnt necessarily mean you have to get these things done immediately but if your are not making the space available to do the work and collecting the tools or parts needed; instead your just telling yourself time after time "I really want to do XYZ" I'd say your just lying to yourself.
Now on the other hand if your honestly waiting on better opportunities to make the task more achievable and it just needs to sit for another month/year or 2 then I suppose theres nothing wrong with that, you own it and it owes you nothing BUT again if you set some time frame goals and when the time comes - you default to excuses vs doing the deed - then it's time to let it go because your clearly more driven by other things
Here is the Youtube channel I mentioned, this guy has some simple techniques for very complex welding repairs
Fitzee's Fabrications - YouTube
The way he uses a grinder with thin cutting blades to allow for tight butt welds is a revelation, that is the technique you would have to use for your repairs
Maybe it is too hard to do that welding, its taken me 30 yrs to be of "acceptable" quality
You have the equipment, so all you can do is practice welding scrap
You also need good finishing equipment, as smoothing out the weld seams is very tedious.
Top quality MIG weld repair can end up sanded to smooth shiny metal, without any filler needed, just primer
Fitzee's Fabrications - YouTube
The way he uses a grinder with thin cutting blades to allow for tight butt welds is a revelation, that is the technique you would have to use for your repairs
Maybe it is too hard to do that welding, its taken me 30 yrs to be of "acceptable" quality
You have the equipment, so all you can do is practice welding scrap
You also need good finishing equipment, as smoothing out the weld seams is very tedious.
Top quality MIG weld repair can end up sanded to smooth shiny metal, without any filler needed, just primer
To be blunt - if you aren't going to make the time or progression to making it how you want then move along without it.
You can talk about wanting to do all kinds of things to it but unless you are making it happen your just fooling yourself.
Doesnt necessarily mean you have to get these things done immediately but if your are not making the space available to do the work and collecting the tools or parts needed; instead your just telling yourself time after time "I really want to do XYZ" I'd say your just lying to yourself.
Now on the other hand if your honestly waiting on better opportunities to make the task more achievable and it just needs to sit for another month/year or 2 then I suppose theres nothing wrong with that, you own it and it owes you nothing BUT again if you set some time frame goals and when the time comes - you default to excuses vs doing the deed - then it's time to let it go because your clearly more driven by other things
You can talk about wanting to do all kinds of things to it but unless you are making it happen your just fooling yourself.
Doesnt necessarily mean you have to get these things done immediately but if your are not making the space available to do the work and collecting the tools or parts needed; instead your just telling yourself time after time "I really want to do XYZ" I'd say your just lying to yourself.
Now on the other hand if your honestly waiting on better opportunities to make the task more achievable and it just needs to sit for another month/year or 2 then I suppose theres nothing wrong with that, you own it and it owes you nothing BUT again if you set some time frame goals and when the time comes - you default to excuses vs doing the deed - then it's time to let it go because your clearly more driven by other things
I have the tools and have fixed enough other things that I think I can do most of the things on my list without too much trouble. but im like why do all that if I cant address the rust.
appreciate the frank advice
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