The Mechanics, Engineers and Chemists who work at optimizing Seafoam for use with ANY engine make you look like an over suspicious fool. Is the government out to get you too? Did someone steal your half empty glass? (Was it the government?!) I have an idea, if you're really against it then try it out for a bit. Then drop your oil pan and see what you need to verify that it's ruining your engine. If it actually does ruin it then you can look forward to sending an angry email to Seafoam, which they will "file" and return to when they feel like dealing with you. Don't just trust Bob, don't be a follower of mis-information like lots of people. Run an ACTUAL test... INSIDE an engine, not a cup or little clear square box with a over powered electric motor (probably running way higher than what a 4.0L would). Those tests have nothing to do with the internal dynamics of your engine. Make up your own mind, it's a free world. AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT THINKS THIS? I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS. As for you calling me an idiot... I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I!?!?

I find it hard to believe that you have a girlfriend.

I find it hard to believe that I care what you think



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Not only are testers against it, so are companies, Amsoil, Valvoline, etc.

Here is another quote from a chemical engineer-
"Increased Standard Additives, (More Is Not Necessarily Better)

Though some additives may not contain anything harmful to your engine, and even some things that could be beneficial, most experts still recommend that you avoid their use. The reason for this is that your oil, as purchased from one of the major oil companies, already contains a very extensive additive package.
This package is made up of numerous, specific additive components, blended to achieve a specific formula that will meet the requirements of your engine. Usually, at least several of these additives will be synergistic. That is, they react mutually, in groups of two or more, to create an effect that none of them could attain individually. Changing or adding to this formula can upset the balance and negate the protective effect the formula was meant to achieve, even if you are only adding more of something that was already included in the initial package.
If it helps, try to think of your oil like a cake recipe. Just because the original recipe calls for two eggs (which makes for a very moist and tasty cake), do you think adding four more eggs is going to make the cake better? Of course not. You're going to upset the carefully calculated
balance of ingredients and magnify the effect the eggs have on the recipe to the point that it ruins the entire cake. Adding more of a specific additive already contained in your oil is likely to produce similar results.
This information should also be taken into account when adding to the oil already in your bike or when mixing oils for any reason, such as synthetic with petroleum. In these cases, always make sure the oils you are putting together have the same rating (SA, SE, SC, etc.). This tells you their additive packages are basically the same, or at least compatible, and are less likely to upset the balance or counteract each other. "


From a Quaker State Engineer-

"The potential zinc downside is that in theory, an engine with blow-by could accumulate zinc deposits in the combustion chamber, potentially becoming a detonation magnet."

Now as we all know additives are high in zinc content. This could be good, for a engine in brand new condition and a flat tappet cam. Not our XJ's though.

The day Fred Rau Graduates from university with a Chemical Engineering degree I will actually admit that you're right. You know, Google Scholar is great, you should try it out sometime. It allowed me to find Tribology international, a SCIENTIFIC Tribology Journal. With ACTUAL scientists. I'm sorry I have to do this, but I'm bored and right now arguing with you is my only means of entertainment. Go to Google Scholar, look up this article= "Effects of lubricant additives on the kinetics and mechanisms of ZDDP adsorption on steel surfaces". This isn't Bob the oil guy, and this isn't Fred Rau the motorcycle magazine Journalist. It's not an opinion, it's SCIENCE, with results. The results say: ZDDP and it's counterpart IPZ (both zinc products) when used in oil additives (like Seafoam!!) are crucial for maintaining the protection of sliding surfaces (like your bearings you're worried about). You know it's all in moderation, if you use seafoam too much sure you'd probably ruin your engine. However it'd be as clean as the Queen's toilette after it dies, and I'm sure the bearings and oil pump would be working just fine. If you still don't know then why not just try it yourself? Make your own experiment for your own good. Don't bother with your cup experiment... it's fruitless.

Actually no, youll be surprised at the results. And your just being ignorant. You try too hard to be correct. If I was wrong Id admit it after I was proved wrong, but now your just jumpin from subject to subject because you cant fight the facts.

Oh yeah this is getting interesting. Who's taking the bets?

I'm being ignorant? Did you even read my article I posted? (which contained the most concrete FACTS you will find on this subject) I'm just trying to change your mind about Seafoam because I thought your suspicion was unwarranted and you were telling other people what to do based on your own opinion. Why don;t you actually try it and decide after yu've given it a shot? I'm going to stop arguing because I'm not arguing with a logical person anymore, I'm arguing with a suspicious idiot's ego, and now I've lost because you brought me down to your level, I feel ashamed for trying.

Posted a thread on this.

I havent seen any. Where is this article full of factual information.

you know if this bickering doesn't come to and end the moderators will lock this poor guys thread i dont think its fair to the op if that happens because the two of you want to stroke your ego's just my opinion but you know what they say about opinions

OPs question has been answered many times.

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Well I put SeaFoam in my crankcase an gas tank this morning, drove to the grocery store before going home from work, for A total of 29.7 miles. The oil pressure goes down to about 60 at idle now and climbs to 75ish at 2250rpm now. before the foam it stayed at 80 all the time. Also I checked the oil pressure sending unit before tryin the foam, it appears to be working fine. I'll post more as I get more results and miles.

Yeah I am good. Carry on!!! Thanks

Should I be puttin this on A diff thread? Well day 2. Drove another 50+ miles today, think I will do the oil change tomarrow. Oil pressure has dropped down to 40psi at idle and goes up to 67ish at any thing over 1500rpm, Notsure what I'll do next, but it hasnt blown up yet or the rear main seal. Have not seen any changes in fuel economy or unusual smells. The oil seems to be fine. Sorry just went out to check the leak forgot to do it before, no change in the leak. I didnt expect it to thought I would check.

I changed the oil today. I put 250 miles on the jeep with the SeaFoam in the oil. The oil presure dropped to about 70psi for a short time but came back up to almost 80 psi. So thats the results I got.