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From: Nor-Cal Coast
Year: 90,84
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0,2.5
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From: Petaluma CA
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Tip five is complete. .2-.4 ohms from every sensor and on B11,B12,& D3 on the ECU. Still no spark. I rechecked the battery voltage (12v), the speed sensor (CPS), the sync sensor, and the start signal(12v). Those checked good.
I checked for pulses from my injector signals signals and I got nothing. (Although I did smell a hint of gas this time). I also checked my ignition interference signal and got nothing.
Any more ideas, or should I order my third ECU?
I checked for pulses from my injector signals signals and I got nothing. (Although I did smell a hint of gas this time). I also checked my ignition interference signal and got nothing.
Any more ideas, or should I order my third ECU?
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From: Nor-Cal Coast
Year: 90,84
Model: Cherokee
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I happen to have an almost new ICM I bought from Napa. Broken down in the rain that is all they had nearby. The coil I actually needed was 60 miles south. Anyway maybe take a look here, something I came up with some years ago. I DID try to duplicate this test with a $1 led from the $ store and it didn't work.
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From: Fort Erie, CANADA
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I replaced the ignition switch but not the key lock. My theory behind this is that the switch was making bad contact when I was putting in the start position. Every once in a while when I turned the key off quickly the engine would "kick" just once. I also hotwired the switch and that did not work but, I have started to second guess everything I do so I changed the $15 switch.
When your key is turned to RUN, do you hear the fuel pump prime? Do you have fuel pressure on the rail?
Might want to swap the fuel pump and B+ Latch relays (I think all the relays are the same) and see if there's a difference.
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From: Petaluma CA
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I'm still thinking this switch is something to worry about. I doubt it's your ECU as those are pretty robust. You sure you've got all your basic electrical connections intact? I'm worried that you are using a jerry-rigged starting method that's not making the right contacts when you have the key turned to START or RUN.
When your key is turned to RUN, do you hear the fuel pump prime? Do you have fuel pressure on the rail?
Might want to swap the fuel pump and B+ Latch relays (I think all the relays are the same) and see if there's a difference.
When your key is turned to RUN, do you hear the fuel pump prime? Do you have fuel pressure on the rail?
Might want to swap the fuel pump and B+ Latch relays (I think all the relays are the same) and see if there's a difference.
The switch is new. I am sure everything is connected. I don't "jerry rig" anything and I take it as an insult that you would suggest it. The fuel pump is fine I have fuel pressure and the issue I am trying to fix is the no spark problem. I don't want to come off as harsh but you basically called me an idiot in your post. I don't come here for that. I come for assistance, if it is offered.
I have changed out the relays with new ones that I had on hand. I changed all four. I checked the function of the B+ signals a few days ago and they were good, relay was working properly. I don't think that would keep me from getting the spark signal anyway.
The reason I keep going back to the ECU is because I have consistent good inputs and I have bad outputs. Getting a bad part from the auto parts store is not an unheard of thing, although I admit it is rare and even more rare that two would be broken in exactly the same way. I just don't know where else to go.
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From: Fort Erie, CANADA
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
The previous owner of my Jeep had installed an aftermarket remote car starter. It was a holy-hell trying to figure out what wires were stock and what was added. This forum helped me with my "no start" problem.
Just trying to help.
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Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
The switch is new. I am sure everything is connected. I don't "jerry rig" anything and I take it as an insult that you would suggest it. The fuel pump is fine I have fuel pressure and the issue I am trying to fix is the no spark problem. I don't want to come off as harsh but you basically called me an idiot in your post. I don't come here for that. I come for assistance, if it is offered.
I have changed out the relays with new ones that I had on hand. I changed all four. I checked the function of the B+ signals a few days ago and they were good, relay was working properly. I don't think that would keep me from getting the spark signal anyway.
The reason I keep going back to the ECU is because I have consistent good inputs and I have bad outputs. Getting a bad part from the auto parts store is not an unheard of thing, although I admit it is rare and even more rare that two would be broken in exactly the same way. I just don't know where else to go.
I have changed out the relays with new ones that I had on hand. I changed all four. I checked the function of the B+ signals a few days ago and they were good, relay was working properly. I don't think that would keep me from getting the spark signal anyway.
The reason I keep going back to the ECU is because I have consistent good inputs and I have bad outputs. Getting a bad part from the auto parts store is not an unheard of thing, although I admit it is rare and even more rare that two would be broken in exactly the same way. I just don't know where else to go.
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From: Petaluma CA
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Since the ECU was pulled out and I was unsure about the case ground, and the need for it, I ran a jumper with alligator clips from the case to the ground connection under the dash. .2 ohms there.
I returned my second ECU because the 30 day return period was almost up. So now I just have the original ECU to work with.
I returned my second ECU because the 30 day return period was almost up. So now I just have the original ECU to work with.
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From: Virginia
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
My only other tip is to check or change the resistor on the drivers side fender. I broke one of them in half by accident one time and didn't realize it at the time but it caused a no spark condition. Before you ask, I had a pole under the hood to hold it up while I bolted it up by myself and it must have hit it lol. Took me a few hours to figure it out. And I hate to keep saying it but I really don't like the crank sensors. Just my 2 cents.
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From: Petaluma CA
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Since the ECU was pulled out and I was unsure about the case ground, and the need for it, I ran a jumper with alligator clips from the case to the ground connection under the dash. .2 ohms there.
I returned my second ECU because the 30 day return period was almost up. So now I just have the original ECU to work with.
I returned my second ECU because the 30 day return period was almost up. So now I just have the original ECU to work with.



