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Old Aug 20, 2019 | 12:54 PM
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Not too long ago some states listed a 20 year old car as an antique! Now they are listed as "classics." Some of us are "collectors!"
I'd roll with that as registration is usually cheaper along with tags and plates
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Old Aug 20, 2019 | 03:22 PM
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I'd roll with that as registration is usually cheaper along with tags and plates
In Virginia, iirc, you could not drive on classic/antique plates during the week unless you were going to an "event" or to have it fixed.
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Old Aug 20, 2019 | 05:27 PM
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And yet dealers can stick plates on anything and drive it! Make sense to you?
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Originally Posted by 318SixPack
In Virginia, iirc, you could not drive on classic/antique plates during the week unless you were going to an "event" or to have it fixed.
Sounds like a pile of you know what to me....
The states I've lived in there was not a restriction like that on classic plates... only what was deemed antique or "horseless carriage" vehicles. those were reserved for anything pre-1940 I think....those could only be driven on certain ocassions I believe.
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Old Aug 20, 2019 | 08:05 PM
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So back to the task at hand..... recommendations for both oil cooler and for trans cooler
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Old Aug 20, 2019 | 09:21 PM
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I run a B&M trans cooler (#70264).
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Old Aug 20, 2019 | 09:31 PM
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IIWY I'd put in a transmission temperature gauge first to see if in fact you need to do anything.

I'm looking at towing soon (good size boat) so I certainly have a concern about this too,

However, it's also pretty cold up here in the winter, and I'm thinking a 6 tube B&M Supercooler might be WAY too much.

I have one reference that says transmissions need to run at 195 degrees. A lot of guys are running around saying their transmissions are running at 100. Can that be good?

Inquiring minds want to know...
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Old Aug 20, 2019 | 11:51 PM
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I once drove a truck that had a torque converter temp gauge and it was redlined at 250*F. When I was driving it, it stayed at 120*F. GMC 5-ton box.
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Originally Posted by EZEARL
I run a B&M trans cooler (#70264).
thanks EZ.... you get that from Summit, NAPA or where?

And most importantly... how well does it work? Where would you rate it... 1 Love it, 2 eh...in the middle, or 3 it's what you have but wish you had a different one... Thanks!

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Old Aug 21, 2019 | 10:47 AM
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IIWY I'd put in a transmission temperature gauge first to see if in fact you need to do anything.

I'm looking at towing soon (good size boat) so I certainly have a concern about this too,

However, it's also pretty cold up here in the winter, and I'm thinking a 6 tube B&M Supercooler might be WAY too much.

I have one reference that says transmissions need to run at 195 degrees. A lot of guys are running around saying their transmissions are running at 100. Can that be good?

Inquiring minds want to know...
Well not a bad idea...but I'm to an area of serious heat and humidity...so I know she's bound to be put to the test with DD duties there...so I'm trying to be pro-active, not re-active with a 20 year old Jeep.
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Any thoughts on Plate type vs. tube type for either the oil and/or trans? Is one type better than the other?

A. Best preferred type for oil cooler
B. Best preferred type for trans cooler

and on the B & M 70264 unit... where does that connect exactly? I thought I would need some sort of an "adaptor" plate/body that fits between the oil adaptor and filter...but checking on places like Summit Racing, the kit doesn't appear to come with one.

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Plate type supposedly gives better cooling performance for a given footprint. Dunno how accurate that is in "real life". I've always ran the stacked plate for both purposes. I live in East Texas and temp gun readings on the oil pan has never got me wanting to install an oil cooler in my Jeep. The only car I ever really needed it going off of oil temp readings was a supercharged Miata and even then only when I was actually racing it.

My 95 will qualify for "antique plates" next year but Texas puts various restrictions on them. It would be nice though as it turns an annual registration to a 5 year registration for the same cost. I daily drive it on the days I don't ride my motorcycle which due to having to haul around 60-100 lbs of gear between stations means I drive it quite often.

This is straight off the VTR-54 form you have to sign when you apply for antique vehicle plates

I certify I am the owner of the above-described vehicle, and as statutorily required, I also certify the frame, body, and motor are at
least 25 years old; the vehicle is a collector’s item that will be used solely for exhibition, club activities, parades, and other functions of
public interest; it is not a replica or aftermarket vehicle; will not be used for daily transportation except when routine maintenance is
needed; and will not carry advertising.
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Originally Posted by RocketMouse
thanks EZ.... you get that from Summit, NAPA or where?

And most importantly... how well does it work? Where would you rate it... 1 Love it, 2 eh...in the middle, or 3 it's what you have but wish you had a different one... Thanks!

Got it from Amazon.

I've been using B&M products for MANY years. At the time I was inquiring about trans coolers it was a hot topic around here. The B&M was the #1 choice which didn't surprise me. There are others that will work also though. I'm not towing anywhere near as much I use to but when I did I had no issues. I had planned on mounting a temp gauge inside the vehicle but never did.
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This is the trans cooler I used. And used a Hewitt Trans Temp gauge, which I put in on the right side of the gauge cluster. It's been a bit over a hundred here recently with pretty high humidity and the highest trans temps I'm seeing in stop and go traffic in town are 180.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000C3DDKO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000C3DDKO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I recently saw a picture of an XJ A/C condenser that had a trans cooler built into the top 6" of it's core. You could tell by looking at it that the top was a tube cooler and the rest of it was a plate cooler for the freon. I believe it came standard with the tow package.
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