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Old Jun 26, 2016 | 09:08 AM
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Bear with me this might be a little long. I am a seasoned mechanic but this is my first Jeep. I bought a 92 XJ not running. It’s 4.0, AX15, 4 X 4. Got it running but it had rod bearing noise on startup and almost no pressure hot. I decided to build an engine for it. I had a 01 block and a 7120 head of unknown history. I had them vatted and crack checked. I built the engine around these parts. This build is with all stock quality aftermarket parts like Sealed power ETC.
So it starts and sounds good. I am breaking in the cam and topping off the coolant. All of a sudden a geyser erupts out of the open radiator filler. Coolant everywhere.
Cooling wise I have a new 3 core aluminum radiator, a new water pump with an “R” on the impeller, All new hoses. I am afraid they missed a crack.
Anybody have any ideas from their experience?
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Old Jun 26, 2016 | 09:37 AM
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what happened after the geyser? it's possible there could've just been trapped air.
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Old Jun 26, 2016 | 09:45 AM
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I immediately shut it off. I had not thought about an air pocket. The thermostat is new. I wonder if I should take it out and see if it makes any different
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Old Jun 26, 2016 | 10:05 AM
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how long did it run before you had issues? I'd make sure the radiator fill is the highest place in the system via ramps, jack, or simply a hill and then start it up and continue doing what you're doing. do you have something like 2500 rpm for 30 mins on the cAm break in?
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Old Jun 26, 2016 | 10:30 AM
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I measured the amount of coolant I put in (12 qt). So I don't think an air pocket was the problem, I ran it at 2000 RPM for about 15 min before it spewed out. It was just level not elevated.
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Old Jun 26, 2016 | 02:11 PM
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I would suspect an air pocket too. I jacked the front of my jeep up a little and massaged the radiator hose until I saw no more bubbles.
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I measured the amount of coolant I put in (12 qt). So I don't think an air pocket was the problem, I ran it at 2000 RPM for about 15 min before it spewed out. It was just level not elevated.
typically a crack or bad assembly will be evident very quickly. if you're terribly worried about it you need to perform a leak down test. it will tell you exactly what, if anything, is wrong.

I'd fill it with coolant, elevate the front of the jeep and get back to break in.
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Old Jun 26, 2016 | 08:15 PM
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I do not have a leak down tester but I put 30 PSI of air in each cylinder when they were at TDC. I listened for any noise. I did not hear any. So in the morning I will elevate the front end and try again.
Thanks for the help.
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Air pocket.
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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 07:41 AM
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I filled it up with water tis morning, elevated the front on ramps. took about 7 minutes for the geyser to erupt. I don't think an air pocket is the problem. I also think it gets hot too quick. I filled it with well water which is probably 65 degrees.
Any other ideas before I star pulling?
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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 09:28 AM
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Need to put a pressure tester on radiator and pump it up and do a breakdown test. Parts store will rent you one. When you return it you get your money back. I bet your head you had checked is bad. A crack in head will put engine compression into the coolant passages in the head and will geyser out like you are describing.

Pressure test the radiator...

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is coolant moving in the hoses?
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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 09:36 AM
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I am pretty sure you are right about the cracked head. I think I will just quit fooling around and pull it. I have a 7120 off of a 92 that was running when pulled. I will take it in and have it reworked. I just hate the double work and expense.
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a stuck thermostat will not cause a geyser effect. If t-stat is stuck you radiator would stay cooler and your lower radiator hose would be hot and you upper hose cold..
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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 09:41 AM
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If you rev it and geyser gets bigger then yes also if it kinda pulses out of radiator then its the head. But a pressure tester on radiator would tell you definitively
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