Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

rear brakes won't bleed after replacing brake lines

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 24, 2013 | 02:38 PM
  #1  
Rdy2offrd's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
Model: Cherokee
Default rear brakes won't bleed after replacing brake lines

So I replaced the rear brake lined from the master cylinder all the was back to the drums yesterday and I can't get the drums to bleed. I opened the bleeder valves all the way up even while I had someone in the jeep holding down the pedal. So while trying to figure out the problem I opened up the T-fitting on the axle and still no fluid. Any ideas?
Reply
Old Mar 24, 2013 | 02:46 PM
  #2  
YZEATER's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 127
Likes: 0
From: tarentum, pa
Year: '95
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Have access to a vacuum bleeder.
Reply
Old Mar 24, 2013 | 04:47 PM
  #3  
freegdr's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 47,923
Likes: 38
From: Broward County Fl.
Year: 1989 xj sport 2dr
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 12 hole bosch Injectors
Default

open bleeders and remove master cyl cap let it gravity bleed. after fluid appears close bleeder and bleed as normal
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2013 | 06:58 PM
  #4  
Rdy2offrd's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
Model: Cherokee
Default

So I tried opening the bleeders completely and letting them sit for an hour or two with the cap off-nothing. Took the line off at the junction on the axle-nothing. Took the line of at the master cylinder and pumped the brakes even-still nothing. No idea where to go from here. I'm assuming there is a blockage in the MC somewhere
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2013 | 07:02 PM
  #5  
ckysodkorn_xj's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,882
Likes: 0
From: Oxford NC
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

look for any pinched lines. close your bleeders pump the hell outa the pedal till that SOB is tight then open your bleeders slow. may haveto doitone or three times but should work.
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2013 | 07:14 PM
  #6  
Rdy2offrd's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
Model: Cherokee
Default

No pinched lines. I just replaced everything from the MC all the way to the drums. When I close em up and pump should I do that with the cap off the MC or on?
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2013 | 03:33 PM
  #7  
trav2.0's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Default

Having the same problem after replacing my master cylinder. Have not replaced any brake lines. Is it possible that either of us could have tripped the proportioning valve preventing flow to the rear drums?
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2013 | 09:40 AM
  #8  
MACherokee's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 89
Likes: 0
From: West of Boston
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by Rdy2offrd
No pinched lines. I just replaced everything from the MC all the way to the drums. When I close em up and pump should I do that with the cap off the MC or on?
You don't want to pump the brakes with the master cylinder cover off as the fluid will go the path of least resistance.... simply out the top....

Last edited by MACherokee; Apr 1, 2013 at 09:43 AM.
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2013 | 05:43 PM
  #9  
trav2.0's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Default

Figured out my issue. Proportioning valve had closed off the rear line. Removed the nut off front of the valve. Took out spring and sliding valve. Replaced the cap and pumped brakes. Fluid out of both bleeders. Replaced the sliding valve, spring and cap. Pumped brakes and there was still fluid out of the bleeders. Not sure how you're actually supposed to reset the valve, but it seemed as soon as there was fluid going through there it opened up no problem. Try it out, see if it works for you.
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2013 | 05:04 PM
  #10  
notop46's Avatar
Seasoned Member
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 448
Likes: 0
From: Charleston, SC
Year: 1990 - 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

When bleeding brakes, it is best to bleed the back brakes first and then the front. For the guy replacing the rear brake lines, losening one of the front bleeder screws and hooking a hose up to direct the fluid to a jar would let the back circuit build pressure. Bleed the back brakes and then bleed the front circuit.
Reply
Old Apr 5, 2013 | 12:41 AM
  #11  
Radi's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 5,302
Likes: 23
From: Wisconsin
Model: Cherokee
Default

Originally Posted by trav2.0
Figured out my issue. Proportioning valve had closed off the rear line. .
I'm guessing you had a leak in the rear lines somewhere? That is what is supposed to happen, that valve senses the imbalance and blocks off the leaking line to try to save the reservoir from emptying out. It will sit most of it's life without moving much, so when it does it often sticks. Sometimes you can re-center it by doing the hilbilly stomp on the brake pedal a couple of times, or just resetting it by hand is fine.
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2019 | 07:11 AM
  #12  
judman's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Default

Originally Posted by trav2.0
Figured out my issue. Proportioning valve had closed off the rear line. Removed the nut off front of the valve. Took out spring and sliding valve. Replaced the cap and pumped brakes. Fluid out of both bleeders. Replaced the sliding valve, spring and cap. Pumped brakes and there was still fluid out of the bleeders. Not sure how you're actually supposed to reset the valve, but it seemed as soon as there was fluid going through there it opened up no problem. Try it out, see if it works for you.
this worked for me, thanks
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Tj Cope
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
21
Nov 16, 2022 08:32 PM
Codenamefa
Wanted
3
Sep 11, 2016 11:10 AM
MtnGoat
Modified XJ Cherokee Tech
33
Feb 24, 2016 12:53 AM
nicksan
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
11
Aug 25, 2015 11:14 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:55 AM.