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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 04:19 PM
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My Jeep is Stock everything
5x4.5 bolt pattern
Front Axle Dana 30, High Pinion, Reverse Cut, 27-spline axleshafts
Rear Axle Dana 35, non c-clip, with anti-lock braking system (ABS)

Which would you rather buy and rebuild?
$75 - complete rear from a 88 bronco II 3.73 gears drum to drum

$75 - Ford 8.8 from an explorer. It is a disk brake axle with the calipers and e-brake setup. It does not have rotors and the carrier is out of the axle

Either way im gonna have to rebuild it so im thinking, I like the idea of calipers and e-brake
but the more complete it is the less i feel i might have to do "for direct bolt on application"

or already take the hassle out if it and just go rebuilt.
$2400 - Rebuilt Ford 9" 31 spline axle, all new 4.11 gears, brgs, seals, Detroit locker

I dont know which gear set up i want or need.
Any suggestions as which way to go and budget friendly upgrades for the rear end?

Once a month trail rider, mudder and small rocks budget

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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 05:26 PM
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the 8,8 the bronco 2 is junk for a cuple more dollars you could get one with the all the parts
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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 06:44 PM
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thanks
how do i determine, what application, parts im gonna need?
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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 08:24 PM
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Just do the 8.8, better value and better quality.
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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 11:51 PM
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Don't know where you got the price for the 9" but I got several laying around I need to sell if that's what they are bringing.
Don't waste your time with the broII axle, they barely work with stock size tires. The exployer 8.8 is a good unit, almost as strong as a 9" and can be had complete for around $150. You can swap out the clutches on the factory LSD to adjust bias to the point it's almost a spool. You loose a bit of ground clearance and the pinion hangs a bit low but it's worth it in the long run.
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Old Dec 15, 2010 | 01:39 AM
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8.8 they make a ton of aftermarket parts for them if you wanna go all out mine was axle 200$ superior super 88 kit 580$ 4.56 gear 200$ox loxker and cable 900$ rebuild kit 90$ 8.8 swap kit from mountainoffroad.com 200$ yoke flange to fit driveshaft 40$ they also make an e brake cable that bolts in for 123$ but there are lots of easy ways around it like cutting the cable and making a loop. on the tv show trucks the have a project called cheep cherokee part 3 they do a step by step setup itunes has this show or you can buy it off powerblocktv.com
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Old Dec 15, 2010 | 09:39 AM
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Don't know where you got the price for the 9" but I got several laying around I need to sell if that's what they are bringing.
Don't waste your time with the broII axle, they barely work with stock size tires. The exployer 8.8 is a good unit, almost as strong as a 9" and can be had complete for around $150. You can swap out the clutches on the factory LSD to adjust bias to the point it's almost a spool. You loose a bit of ground clearance and the pinion hangs a bit low but it's worth it in the long run.
9" - Dependent on price, thats worth my drive to TN.
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Old Dec 15, 2010 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jeepkid46
8.8 they make a ton of aftermarket parts for them if you wanna go all out mine was axle 200$ superior super 88 kit 580$ 4.56 gear 200$ox loxker and cable 900$ rebuild kit 90$ 8.8 swap kit from mountainoffroad.com 200$ yoke flange to fit driveshaft 40$ they also make an e brake cable that bolts in for 123$ but there are lots of easy ways around it like cutting the cable and making a loop. on the tv show trucks the have a project called cheep cherokee part 3 they do a step by step setup itunes has this show or you can buy it off powerblocktv.com
Thanks everyone for the info.
Im gonna google some more info on everything.
Lol. Sounds like I had no idea what i was getting into.
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Old Dec 15, 2010 | 12:46 PM
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you dont have to get all that stuff to work all it needs is spring perches shock mounts and u bolts and plates plus yoke flange and would need to make sure its the same gears as the front
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Old Dec 15, 2010 | 01:15 PM
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you dont have to get all that stuff to work all it needs is spring perches shock mounts and u bolts and plates plus yoke flange and would need to make sure its the same gears as the front
actually, that doesnt sound too bad
i have to make sure i have the same in the front as the back?
(Sorry i am new to the world of modifying jeeps
i was a american drifter and now i want big tires and mud)

I have no idea what i am doing, i just know what i want the final results to be/look like
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Old Dec 15, 2010 | 05:57 PM
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the gears have to be the same front to back so you most likely have 3.55 gears in the front so you would have to get that in back as well but tell us what you want it to be in the end and we can better help
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Old Dec 15, 2010 | 06:25 PM
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what size tires do you plan to run?
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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well ideally i want it to be the most baddest thing on the trail.
realistically...

i think I want a long/short arm in the front and back (where one tire can extend at one angle and the other be parallel or at a higher angle and still move) - 4" lift with 31x10.5 tires - snorkel and bushwacker flares with a "full sunroof" (extends the length/width of the jeep) - roll cage/bar - winch & grill/brush guard - skid plates/body armor and "line-x" type inside and out...
Not too much to ask for, I dont think

would love to have the bullet proof ford 9" or 8.8 with disc brakes in the rear
i dont want to have to worry about breaking something...

im a once a month trail rider, small rocks and mudd type
but only have income for driving on the highway

granted for me i could do this almost stock, but i like the added security feeling i get from having stronger parts plus it looks better and makes it sound cooler to name off good parts

So, this is what i want and I am gonna get it all eventually - but i want it to be functional exactly like this, so if i have to upgrade one part to make one of these items fit/work properly, then so be it.
just dont want to have to pay to keep fixing something cause i forgot to / didnt upgrade something else
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DocOrng XJ
well ideally i want it to be the most baddest thing on the trail.
realistically...

i think I want a long/short arm in the front and back (where one tire can extend at one angle and the other be parallel or at a higher angle and still move) - 4" lift with 31x10.5 tires - snorkel and bushwacker flares with a "full sunroof" (extends the length/width of the jeep) - roll cage/bar - winch & grill/brush guard - skid plates/body armor and "line-x" type inside and out...
Not too much to ask for, I dont think

would love to have the bullet proof ford 9" or 8.8 with disc brakes in the rear
i dont want to have to worry about breaking something...

im a once a month trail rider, small rocks and mudd type
but only have income for driving on the highway

granted for me i could do this almost stock, but i like the added security feeling i get from having stronger parts plus it looks better and makes it sound cooler to name off good parts

So, this is what i want and I am gonna get it all eventually - but i want it to be functional exactly like this, so if i have to upgrade one part to make one of these items fit/work properly, then so be it.
just dont want to have to pay to keep fixing something cause i forgot to / didnt upgrade something else
31's you'd be fine with a stock 8.25, but if you want the beef, disc brakes , and huge aftermarket, then go with 8.8.... a 9 would be pointless for 31's
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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the 8.25 can handle small rocks and mud with thirty ones
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