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Old Apr 3, 2024 | 12:55 AM
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Default Passenger window won’t roll up but will go down

This afternoon on my way home from work I rolled my windows halfway down on my 2000 xj and when I went to roll them back up my passenger side didn’t roll up at all. I didn’t get anything at the drivers side switch and the passenger side will only roll it down. I have been trying to diagnose what could possibly be causing this. Took both switch panels apart and found some cracks in the solder, tried melting them down to get better connections but that didn’t help unfortunately. I ordered some new ones anyways and will try them out as soon as they get here. Don’t have any experience diagnosing electrical problems so I am kind of at a loss on what to do. Not sure if I should just bring it into the shop. I have rain in the forecast and I need to be able to get it to work as it is my daily. Anything helps. Thanks
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Old Apr 3, 2024 | 06:03 AM
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Likely a switch issue or door jam is kinking the wiring into the door. Not that uncommon.
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Old Apr 3, 2024 | 06:58 AM
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I know you have new switches on the way, but maybe for future reference if someone finds this thread:

If resoldering those points didn't help try this. My windows have worked intermittently lately and I took the consoles apart and cleaned the individual switches, I'll post some pics. Remove the transparent parts carefully and then clean the metal 'levers' clean , you can take them out. Then, underneath those, you'll find tiny copper contacts, clean those up too and the round contacts points you see in the pictures, 4 per switch.
Take the two plastic rods out as well (carefully not losing the springs) and clean them up. I put a tiny bit of silicone underneath where they slide over the lever when the switch is operated.
Pictures in next post. If you click on them, they'll be more focused.



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Old Apr 3, 2024 | 07:00 AM
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Old Apr 3, 2024 | 08:27 PM
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So I just got the passenger switch and threw it in 5 minutes ago. Started working like new. Then I went to the drivers side to check and make sure that one was working as well and it was not. When I went back to the passenger to triple check it was still working it only went down. The drivers side is supposed to come in tomorrow but I also need to drive it to work tomorrow and it is supposed to rain. Thanks
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Old Apr 3, 2024 | 08:29 PM
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Only thing I know at this point is that the motor and resistor are good. Has to be in the wiring/ switches
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Old Apr 3, 2024 | 11:29 PM
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Note from DJ

Open the door of the winnow that will not role up and try the window switch in that door to see if that switch will role the window.

I hope this will work!
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Old Apr 4, 2024 | 08:12 AM
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As an emergency measure in the interim, you can close the window if the motor is good by means of a powerprobe (handy to have anyway if you need to buy one). If you don't have one you can do the following:

Make two long sections of electrical wire- long enough to reach from the battery terminal posts to the passenger window switch.
Attach one wire on the negative batt terminal and the other wire to the positive.
Take the window motor connector apart and apply positive to one and negative to the other pin from the connector (motor part of the connectors that is- make sure its the motor part). Dont worry about which wire you connect to which pin: the motor is bi-directional so it goes one way and if you switch the wires it'll go the other way.

The most important thing doing this is: DO NOT LET THE WIRE ENDS TOUCH each other. Put some alligator clips on them if you can- the space in the connector is tight.

A powerprobe is absolutely preferred but at least you can close your window now in the interim.

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Old Apr 4, 2024 | 03:42 PM
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On my '94, the Pins are rather easy to remove from the Window Motor Connector after you remove the Retainer, so I flipped the wires at the Motor, allowing me to use the "Window Down" button to make my window go up. I left it that way until I got it fixed so that if I ever hit the button by accident, it would try to roll up the window versus making more work for myself. Motor swapped, flipped the pins back the way they were, good as new...
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Ground connections.
IMHO there's no such thing as too many fresh clean electrical grounds.
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Old Apr 4, 2024 | 07:34 PM
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So I just got home and put the drivers side switch in and it is still the same thing. The passenger side will still put it down and the drivers side won’t do anything for the passenger side. Not really experienced in any kind of electrical so how would I track down a broken wire at this point? Having a hard time understanding why the new passenger switch would have worked yesterday for a second. Any and all help is appreciated. Have tomorrow and all weekend to fix it
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Is @Morat still on here? I know he had the same exact problem as me. Jumping the window up the way he said in his thread a while back isn’t working. Here’s the thread for reference https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/pas...not-up-194783/
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Old Apr 4, 2024 | 11:43 PM
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His method is similar to the one I described in my post above.
In your post #6 you said that the motor was good. Then this method should work.
How did you verify the motor is good? And both ways or one way only? It can fail one way.

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Old Apr 4, 2024 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Roler
His method is similar to the one I described in my post above.
In your post #6 you said that the motor was good. Then this method should work.
How did you verify the motor is good? And both ways or one way only? It can fail one way.
The reason I said that is because it was working both ways when I put the new passenger side switch in. Unless something failed/shorted out it should still be in good shape. I will try to hot wire it up again in the morning.
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Old Apr 5, 2024 | 07:31 AM
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Yes because if the motor is good, hot wiring should work. Power and ground applied to the connector motor side doesn't have anything else then the wiring the electricity goes through. There is no fuse, switch or other connector involved with this method.
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