Odometer adjustment
01-28-2011, 08:54 AM
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Odometer adjustment
Just swapped out my dash with idiot lights for a dash with gauges. I would like to be able to set the odometer to match the one that I removed. Does anyone know if this is possible and/or how to do it?
01-28-2011, 08:58 AM
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im sure it could be done but the legality of it is a question. i was told by a dmv inspector in ct that its illegal to change an odometer so i would have to assume adjusting it is just as much of a no no.
01-28-2011, 01:13 PM
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Well I'm not trying to lie about the mileage I do, however, want the correct mileage on my replacement speedometer. That is the reason for my inquiry.
01-28-2011, 01:29 PM
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I'm pretty sure you can't roll it backwards without turning it completely over forward.
You may be screwed unless your rig has more miles than the new dash.
If the new dash has less miles, why do you care?
You can always spin it forward with a drill or something I guess. But that only adds more miles.
You may be screwed unless your rig has more miles than the new dash.
If the new dash has less miles, why do you care?
You can always spin it forward with a drill or something I guess. But that only adds more miles.
01-28-2011, 01:44 PM
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The early clusters, pre '91 (iirc), can be taken apart and the odom rolled either way. Sometime after that they plastic welded the barrel in place so you can not take it apart to change the mileage reading.
The legal issue is.... it's illegal. Federal law states any tampering with the odom is a Felony offense.
Now thats out of the way, the legal way to perform a cluster swap is to have a certified shop set he mileage for you or you can obtain a door jamb sticker on which you would write the old and the new mileage at the time of the swap. You would then have to let your local DMV know and they will have you file a form that goes with your registration.
The legal issue is.... it's illegal. Federal law states any tampering with the odom is a Felony offense.
Now thats out of the way, the legal way to perform a cluster swap is to have a certified shop set he mileage for you or you can obtain a door jamb sticker on which you would write the old and the new mileage at the time of the swap. You would then have to let your local DMV know and they will have you file a form that goes with your registration.
01-28-2011, 02:29 PM
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Your year cluster can only be adjusted forward.
You have two options as I see them:
1. States will either have an "odometer discrepancy" checkbox on the title to check. Even better is a sticker that some states have that you can get that states the mileage conversion information to switch between the displayed and actual mileage.
2. Get a different cluster that has lower miles and have the dealership adjust it forward for you.
You have two options as I see them:
1. States will either have an "odometer discrepancy" checkbox on the title to check. Even better is a sticker that some states have that you can get that states the mileage conversion information to switch between the displayed and actual mileage.
2. Get a different cluster that has lower miles and have the dealership adjust it forward for you.
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01-29-2011, 09:40 AM
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i didnt mean to come off as sounding like your were trying to pull a fast one on somebody. i was just letting you know that what you wanted to do isnt exactly kosher.
02-01-2011, 01:58 PM
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The early clusters, pre '91 (iirc), can be taken apart and the odom rolled either way. Sometime after that they plastic welded the barrel in place so you can not take it apart to change the mileage reading.
The legal issue is.... it's illegal. Federal law states any tampering with the odom is a Felony offense.
Now thats out of the way, the legal way to perform a cluster swap is to have a certified shop set he mileage for you or you can obtain a door jamb sticker on which you would write the old and the new mileage at the time of the swap. You would then have to let your local DMV know and they will have you file a form that goes with your registration.
The legal issue is.... it's illegal. Federal law states any tampering with the odom is a Felony offense.
Now thats out of the way, the legal way to perform a cluster swap is to have a certified shop set he mileage for you or you can obtain a door jamb sticker on which you would write the old and the new mileage at the time of the swap. You would then have to let your local DMV know and they will have you file a form that goes with your registration.
Your year cluster can only be adjusted forward.
You have two options as I see them:
1. States will either have an "odometer discrepancy" checkbox on the title to check. Even better is a sticker that some states have that you can get that states the mileage conversion information to switch between the displayed and actual mileage.
2. Get a different cluster that has lower miles and have the dealership adjust it forward for you.
You have two options as I see them:
1. States will either have an "odometer discrepancy" checkbox on the title to check. Even better is a sticker that some states have that you can get that states the mileage conversion information to switch between the displayed and actual mileage.
2. Get a different cluster that has lower miles and have the dealership adjust it forward for you.
Very understandable. Personally, the way I see it, there was no crime commited since there was no intention to decieve.
02-01-2011, 02:36 PM
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What was incorrect? The fact you were able to disassemble the cluster and adjust the mileage? You never said what year XJ the cluster came from.
If you think its legal more power to you. Here is the law for the record.
Motor Vehicle Cost Information Act, 49 U.S.C. Section 32704
49 U.S.C. §§ 32701-32711 (Formerly 15 U.S.C. §§ 1981-1991),
49 C.F.R., Sections 580.1-580.6 - Odometer Requirements
Violations -
If you think its legal more power to you. Here is the law for the record.
Motor Vehicle Cost Information Act, 49 U.S.C. Section 32704
- (It shall be unlawful for a person) "with intent to defraud, operate a motor vehicle on a street, road, or highway if the person knows that the odometer of the vehicle is disconnected or not operating; or
- The owner of the vehicle or agent of the owner shall attach a written notice to the left doorframe of the vehicle specifying the mileage before the service, repair, or replacement and the date of the service, repair, or replacement.
- A person transferring ownership of a motor vehicle shall give the transferee the following written disclosure
- Disclosure of the cumulative mileage registered on the odometer,
- Disclosure that the actual mileage is unknown if the transferor knows that the odometer reading is different from different from the number of miles the vehicle has actually traveled.
- Mileage Statement Requirement for Licensing. - (1) A motor vehicle the ownership of which is transferred may not be licensed for use in a State unless the transferee, in submitting an application to a State for the title on which the license will be issued, includes with the application the transferor's title and, if that title contains the space referred to in paragraph (3)(A)(iii) of this subsection, a statement, signed and dated by the transferor, of the mileage disclosure required under subsection (a) of this section
49 U.S.C. §§ 32701-32711 (Formerly 15 U.S.C. §§ 1981-1991),
49 C.F.R., Sections 580.1-580.6 - Odometer Requirements
Violations -
- Resetting or altering odometer with intent to change mileage.
- Making false odometer disclosure statement.
- Failure to provide buyer complete odometer disclosure statement.
- In acquiring vehicle for resale, failure to obtain complete odometer disclosure statement from seller.
- Conspiring to violate any of the Federal odometer statutes.
- $1,500 or,
- treble damages, whichever is greater, plus reasonable attorney's fees.
- Value of vehicle with fraudulent mileage minus value of vehicle with actual mileage.
- Lessened resale value of vehicle with altered odometer.
- Increased finance charges on fraudulently inflated value.
- Increased insurance costs of fraudulently inflated value.
- Increased taxes on fraudulently inflated value.
- Cost of unanticipated repairs and maintenance.
- Times spent resolving problems created by fraud.
- Laws vary widely from state to state; however, odometer fraud is covered in most states.
- State laws may provide access to dealer bonds or other coverage.
- Some state laws provide for recovery of damages under state law in addition to damages recovered under Federal law.
02-02-2011, 01:07 PM
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TRS80, If you look at my info, you will see that it is a 96. I'll take my chances. It is MY Jeep that I paid for and I don't plan on getting rid of it so I'm not the least bit concerned. Might want to read the "law" again, in the first line its states "(It shall be unlawful for a person) "with intent to defraud". There was no intent to defraud. That being said, its done, it works, it matches. Problem solved.
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TRS80, If you look at my info, you will see that it is a 96. I'll take my chances. It is MY Jeep that I paid for and I don't plan on getting rid of it so I'm not the least bit concerned. Might want to read the "law" again, in the first line its states "(It shall be unlawful for a person) "with intent to defraud". There was no intent to defraud. That being said, its done, it works, it matches. Problem solved.
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+1 for letting us know it can be done, the other dude was trying to make drama, must be one of those Forum Lawyers
Thanks again
02-02-2011, 02:54 PM
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TRS80, If you look at my info, you will see that it is a 96. I'll take my chances. It is MY Jeep that I paid for and I don't plan on getting rid of it so I'm not the least bit concerned. Might want to read the "law" again, in the first line its states "(It shall be unlawful for a person) "with intent to defraud". There was no intent to defraud. That being said, its done, it works, it matches. Problem solved.
And none of this matters until you sell the vehicle. Even then, it doesn't really matter, but facts are facts.
02-02-2011, 09:02 PM
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Can I ask how you made it work I just got one out of a 91 and mine is a 93 with the idiot lights and it doesn't work any suggestions
02-02-2011, 11:05 PM
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