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Old Aug 21, 2016 | 07:27 AM
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Help please.

Attempted starting the Jeep today and here is what happens. I plugged in the battery and the lights turned on without the key, so that's problem #1. When the key is put in the ABS light comes on, when I turn it to start the car the BRAKE (P) (!) light comes on but no starter attempt.

After looking it up for a while I came across the the Neutral Safety Switch (NSS) so I took that off of the old auto transmission and plugged it into the harness and spun it through the different locations and it still didn't start. So I opened it up and cleaned it and tried again with the same results. I thought maybe the BRAKE light comes on normally when starting? Can anyone confirm? I also took the starter out and had it tested at O'Reilys and it tested okay. I bought a new starter relay and that didn't change anything either. I also tried the 1996's PCM in it and that didn't do much - for whatever reason the fuel gauge doesn't work but that's all the difference I noticed.

So I need to figure out if this is because of the manual swap, or because of something else. My new battery cables came in the mail today so I hope to plug those in and maybe something with fix itself, that could be asking too much...



So once again - help please!
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Old Aug 21, 2016 | 10:23 PM
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Got it to crank but this is it.

Need to charge the battery and try again. Any suggestions?
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by kylemason
Got it to crank but this is it. https://youtu.be/BLoU3WHup6c

Need to charge the battery and try again. Any suggestions?
Yeah, there's a guy with a machine gun under your hood. Run like hell!
If that video is supposed to be what you call cranking, and you say that depleted your battery, you have battery issues. It's not cranking, the starter hasn't even got enough voltage to pull the solenoid in. What is the charged voltage of the battery? Even looks like your dash is dim and the volt meter says about 8 volts.

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Old Aug 24, 2016 | 10:11 AM
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Yeah it wasn't charged up to begin with - need to get that issue solved. It was only at about 7.7 before I had tried anything. Was sitting around the shop for about 2 months before I had done anything with it and then after installing it realized the draw from somewhere in the system.
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Old Aug 24, 2016 | 11:40 AM
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yep thats a battery issue, your starter not getting enough juice to start.
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Old Aug 30, 2016 | 07:35 AM
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Got new battery with 800 cold cranking amps and she fired right up, still have low oil pressure. About 10 on the gauge. Runs fine so I'm not sure why. I need to swap out my power steering pumps because the one that is in it must have a **** bearing because it wobble hard and leaks apparently.

Other than that this thing runs, so thats exciting.
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