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1996 XJ 242, 360,000 miles.
At the junk yard yesterday while I was taking parts off a 1995 XJ I remembered I don't have high on my blower motor, so I snagged the resistor module from the 1995 also. I replaced it once around 2003. Back then it didn't solve my problem, had to get the switch rebuilt.
This time I don't think it is my problem either, since the only setting that doesn't work is high. From this wiring diagram it looks like high completely bypasses the resistors.
I don't know if that's the right switch, but have you probed the back to see if you're getting voltage at the back of the switch (in high, plugged in)? Does sound like a fried switch to me though.
I don't know if that's the right switch, but have you probed the back to see if you're getting voltage at the back of the switch (in high, plugged in)? Does sound like a fried switch to me though.
1996 XJ 242, 360,000 miles.
At the junk yard yesterday while I was taking parts off a 1995 XJ I remembered I don't have high on my blower motor, so I snagged the resistor module from the 1995 also. I replaced it once around 2003. Back then it didn't solve my problem, had to get the switch rebuilt.
This time I don't think it is my problem either, since the only setting that doesn't work is high. From this wiring diagram it looks like high completely bypasses the resistors.
I can confirm the high setting bypasses the resistors.
Mine still works on all speeds, but when I bypassed 3 lower speeds with relays,
Hi is still direct, and I couldnt find a wire to bypass (without tearing into the dash)
Not sure whether your switch is gone, but probably
I would be interested in your findings about the wire location for HI
I do not use this setting, 3 is good enough
Its only a matter of time before the Fan fries something in its current path for pre-update owners, unless you bypass with relays
If I am reading that wiring diagram right, high should be #2 on here and #5 not used.
Do you have a picture or diagram of the relay setup you made?
looks correct...they call out C242 (twice in the diagram)..but I couldnt find the connector or spice...its not close to the resistor pack as implied
What I did is run a fused 12V wire thru the firewall, and mounted 3 relays behind the PS kick panel, and made a little harness to run the resistor control wires to the relay input, and then back out to the resistor pack.
This way, each resistor has its own relay
there is no other way around the problem but a separate relay for each speed (problem cured on post-update with circuit re-design)
All reversible if I ever wished to...all the current flows thru the ignition switch for fan and headlights on pre-updates, unless relays are used
High does bypass the resistor completely so it's one of three things really.
High contact in the switch has burnt out
The connector on the back of the switch has melted and making bad contact on the high pin
There is a break or high resistance in the wire from the switch connector to the resistor connector
The best way to test this would be to pull the dash panel off, get at the connectors on the back of the heat selection, get access to the resitor connector and get testing with a multimeter with the fan set to high. If there is high resistance causing an issue, you'll find it much easier via a voltage drop on a live circuit. Just check your voltage on the input pin and output pin and look for drops.
I typed this out an hour or so ago then forgot to post so sorry if anything has been covered already.
If I am reading that wiring diagram right, high should be #2 on here and #5 not used.
Do you have a picture or diagram of the relay setup you made?
You have just jogged my memory, and I think it went like this;
when I detached the correctly colored wire from the resistor pack (which you have pictured)...instead of the fan motor stop spinning on HI, it just kept buzzing away
I might be wrong, but thats my recollection.
would add another relay for HI, if I could easily find the right spot to intercept the wire, hence my interest
You have just jogged my memory, and I think it went like this;
when I detached the correctly colored wire from the resistor pack (which you have pictured)...instead of the fan motor stop spinning on HI, it just kept buzzing away
I might be wrong, but thats my recollection.
would add another relay for HI, if I could easily find the right spot to intercept the wire, hence my interest
I just bought a 4 pack of Bosch plastic 5 pin relays with holders $20, and placed them behind the inside kick panel
As I said, all relays are fed by a common power source from the engine bay, and my harness just plugs into the Jeep harness female spades, which trigger each relay,
and the output of the relevant relay goes to the appropriate resistor terminal
I just bought a 4 pack of Bosch plastic 5 pin relays with holders $20, and placed them behind the inside kick panel
As I said, all relays are fed by a common power source from the engine bay, and my harness just plugs into the Jeep harness female spades, which trigger each relay,
and the output of the relevant relay goes to the appropriate resistor terminal
If you tinker with it again, you could get power from fuse 5, the 30 amp blower motor slot on the cabin fuse block.
edit: oops that still goes through the ignition switch
Last edited by 318SixPack; Nov 30, 2020 at 05:40 AM.
I just bought a 4 pack of Bosch plastic 5 pin relays with holders $20, and placed them behind the inside kick panel
As I said, all relays are fed by a common power source from the engine bay, and my harness just plugs into the Jeep harness female spades, which trigger each relay,
and the output of the relevant relay goes to the appropriate resistor terminal
Looks like I am not getting out that cheap. I tried, I really tried to use Del City for this but shipping was killer. Four Song Chuan relays and a 4 way relay box over $50.
On Amazon, I have 4 true blue Bosch 5 pin mini relays and a no-name 6 relay box in cart, $37.75. Will get wire local and do that myself since so many of the Amazon sellers seem to be using 14 AWG when they should be using 10(?).
Anyway, will run the power with 10 AWG and switching 14 AWG. Will probably mount the box next to the fuse box under hood, add a 30A fuse to the stock fuse box and run it to the new box and then the wires through an existing firewall hole to connect into harness for motor.
All plans subject to change when they meet reality.