No heat/no air
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Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Bought the xj about 3 weeks ago and although I hadn't driven it much (turning wrench), I never noticed any blower issues. When I got in the XJ to drive to work this morning, however, the heat wouldn't come on and I couldn't get it to blow any air in any direction. THankfully, the jeep warmed up enough that the heat finding its way out of the defrost vents gave me a slight window of clear on the windshield to get to work.
What are my differentials and how do I check them? I was fiddling with the stereo above it rewiring it, but I didn't notice any way I could have messed with the heater controls from there, but I'll check for anything that looks off this afternoon. What else should I look for? I heaer that our rigs tend to have blower issues? How do I doangose that?
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What are my differentials and how do I check them? I was fiddling with the stereo above it rewiring it, but I didn't notice any way I could have messed with the heater controls from there, but I'll check for anything that looks off this afternoon. What else should I look for? I heaer that our rigs tend to have blower issues? How do I doangose that?
Thanks,
s
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If it's completely dead, I would start with checking the heater blower fuse. If that is bad you probably shorted it while fooling with your stereo wiring. Swap it out and it should work.
If the fuse is good then I would look behind the heater control panel and see if anything was fried while messing with your stereo wiring.
I've found while fixing aircraft cockpit electronics for 22 years, that 9 out of 10 electrical problems are caused by people fooling with wiring that isn't broke rather than regular old vibes or corrosion.
If the fuse is good then I would look behind the heater control panel and see if anything was fried while messing with your stereo wiring.
I've found while fixing aircraft cockpit electronics for 22 years, that 9 out of 10 electrical problems are caused by people fooling with wiring that isn't broke rather than regular old vibes or corrosion.
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If it's completely dead, I would start with checking the heater blower fuse. If that is bad you probably shorted it while fooling with your stereo wiring. Swap it out and it should work.
If the fuse is good then I would look behind the heater control panel and see if anything was fried while messing with your stereo wiring.
I've found while fixing aircraft cockpit electronics for 22 years, that 9 out of 10 electrical problems are caused by people fooling with wiring that isn't broke rather than regular old vibes or corrosion.
If the fuse is good then I would look behind the heater control panel and see if anything was fried while messing with your stereo wiring.
I've found while fixing aircraft cockpit electronics for 22 years, that 9 out of 10 electrical problems are caused by people fooling with wiring that isn't broke rather than regular old vibes or corrosion.
Where else should I look?
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I would check the wiring under the cd player. It didnt take much to unplug mine when I installed a cd player. Check that first, I always check where ive been before making any other moves to check parts. Kinda my rule of thumb
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Also, do you have any other ideas if that isn't the problem? I plan to check fuses and pull the stereo to see if I unplugged the heater control, but if that isn't it, where should I start looking?
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does the speed adjustment for the blowers work (can you hear air get stronger or weaker when turning the know but no air comes out) or is it both the speed and the adjustment for where you want the air to blow (leg, face or defrost)
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Check fuses first.
Pull your dash bezel off and remove the 4 screws that hold the HVAC controls.
Carefully pull it out and inspect the wire connector to the BLOWER SWITCH.
The switches have a tendency to short out and melt.
If you can, pop the connector off and inspect the terminals.
Had the switch go in BOTH my XJ's (91 & 96)
Junkyard run for used switch netted me TWO, out of the 8 I pulled.
The other 6 were fried.
Pull your dash bezel off and remove the 4 screws that hold the HVAC controls.
Carefully pull it out and inspect the wire connector to the BLOWER SWITCH.
The switches have a tendency to short out and melt.
If you can, pop the connector off and inspect the terminals.
Had the switch go in BOTH my XJ's (91 & 96)
Junkyard run for used switch netted me TWO, out of the 8 I pulled.
The other 6 were fried.
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From: Wyo
Year: 1996
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Check fuses first.
Pull your dash bezel off and remove the 4 screws that hold the HVAC controls.
Carefully pull it out and inspect the wire connector to the BLOWER SWITCH.
The switches have a tendency to short out and melt.
If you can, pop the connector off and inspect the terminals.
Had the switch go in BOTH my XJ's (91 & 96)
Junkyard run for used switch netted me TWO, out of the 8 I pulled.
The other 6 were fried.
Pull your dash bezel off and remove the 4 screws that hold the HVAC controls.
Carefully pull it out and inspect the wire connector to the BLOWER SWITCH.
The switches have a tendency to short out and melt.
If you can, pop the connector off and inspect the terminals.
Had the switch go in BOTH my XJ's (91 & 96)
Junkyard run for used switch netted me TWO, out of the 8 I pulled.
The other 6 were fried.
Thanks,
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what year xj?
my tj has the problem you are describing. it is a 99 and has round dials.
they're known for melting the wire connector on the back of the hvac head unit.
i have cut my melted switch off and crimped on some spade connectors and installed those into a new head unit, protecting them with some electrical tape so they won't short out again.
btw, the connector isn't available from the dealer, or anywhere for that matter. have to find one at a wrecker and snip it out and splice it in yours.
the round dials started in 99 for the tj's. probably the same for the xj's. those are interchangable up to 2003 for the tj's, so probably good up to 01 for the xj.
JP magazine did a write up about this a couple years ago.
they said to use a resistor for every speed.
when mine craps out, i just reach in through the glove box and feel for the wires that go into the rear of the hvac, and wiggle them around until my blower works. try that.
my tj has the problem you are describing. it is a 99 and has round dials.
they're known for melting the wire connector on the back of the hvac head unit.
i have cut my melted switch off and crimped on some spade connectors and installed those into a new head unit, protecting them with some electrical tape so they won't short out again.
btw, the connector isn't available from the dealer, or anywhere for that matter. have to find one at a wrecker and snip it out and splice it in yours.
the round dials started in 99 for the tj's. probably the same for the xj's. those are interchangable up to 2003 for the tj's, so probably good up to 01 for the xj.
JP magazine did a write up about this a couple years ago.
they said to use a resistor for every speed.
when mine craps out, i just reach in through the glove box and feel for the wires that go into the rear of the hvac, and wiggle them around until my blower works. try that.
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I pulled the heater head unit and sure enough, I had accidentally unplugged one of the connectors. What a simple fix! I do appreciate the heads up on the melting switch issue. I'll have to pull the connectors off of a j/y jeep next time I'm out there. I'm limited on the jeeps available, but if the connectors look the same, Ill grab a couple.
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