Need XJ driving tips for icy snowy mountain roads.
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Shoot, I meant to say that I regret NOT getting a set of the Firestone snow tires, not that I regretted getting them. Post edited, but I know ya'll ain't going to read my junk twice, so, ... :-) I have them on my DD 2wd pickup and they make it possible to drive. Without those, it quite literally will sit there and spin the tires while at idle. Wish I had a video...
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4 wheel drive doesn't help with stopping. Dedicated snow tires are the answer. I run them on all of my vehicles in the winter. Its a night and day difference.
Often with 1-2 it will not lock into 2nd gear and allow engine braking, but rather just sit in 2nd with the torque converter unlocked. Next time, throw it down into 1-2 and blip the throttle to get the RPMs up. I find this can help get the TC to lock and assist in engine braking.
Often with 1-2 it will not lock into 2nd gear and allow engine braking, but rather just sit in 2nd with the torque converter unlocked. Next time, throw it down into 1-2 and blip the throttle to get the RPMs up. I find this can help get the TC to lock and assist in engine braking.
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Interesting - so much for received wisdom!
That's not to say I understand how or why whether it's driven makes any difference to a wheel that's not turning. Also, I suspect that test is more of reflection on the drivers' skill/ability than anything, because I know that if I tried that the Jeep would neither stay in a straight(ish) line, nor, probably, stop at all. I can remember a car actually gaining momentum on ice while braking &, on another occasion, being unable to stop sliding down a hill backwards, even though in low with the wheels still scrabbling for grip (although 4WD might've helped in that situation - then again I've had an XJ start to slide back down a snowy slope, as soon as the parking brake was released,& the brakes having little or no effect. Can't now recall how I got out of that scenario, but it's an experience I'm anxious not to repeat.
That's not to say I understand how or why whether it's driven makes any difference to a wheel that's not turning. Also, I suspect that test is more of reflection on the drivers' skill/ability than anything, because I know that if I tried that the Jeep would neither stay in a straight(ish) line, nor, probably, stop at all. I can remember a car actually gaining momentum on ice while braking &, on another occasion, being unable to stop sliding down a hill backwards, even though in low with the wheels still scrabbling for grip (although 4WD might've helped in that situation - then again I've had an XJ start to slide back down a snowy slope, as soon as the parking brake was released,& the brakes having little or no effect. Can't now recall how I got out of that scenario, but it's an experience I'm anxious not to repeat.
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I don't see that anyone has mentioned this yet, but with any rear wheel
drive car, it does better on slick surfaces when it is loaded. If you don't
have people in the back seat, it is good to have at least a hundred pounds of
something in the trunk.
drive car, it does better on slick surfaces when it is loaded. If you don't
have people in the back seat, it is good to have at least a hundred pounds of
something in the trunk.
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Another of the many reasons to have the gas tank full when you're driving in snow.
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Interesting - so much for received wisdom!
That's not to say I understand how or why whether it's driven makes any difference to a wheel that's not turning. Also, I suspect that test is more of reflection on the drivers' skill/ability than anything, because I know that if I tried that the Jeep would neither stay in a straight(ish) line, nor, probably, stop at all. I can remember a car actually gaining momentum on ice while braking &, on another occasion, being unable to stop sliding down a hill backwards, even though in low with the wheels still scrabbling for grip (although 4WD might've helped in that situation - then again I've had an XJ start to slide back down a snowy slope, as soon as the parking brake was released,& the brakes having little or no effect. Can't now recall how I got out of that scenario, but it's an experience I'm anxious not to repeat.
That's not to say I understand how or why whether it's driven makes any difference to a wheel that's not turning. Also, I suspect that test is more of reflection on the drivers' skill/ability than anything, because I know that if I tried that the Jeep would neither stay in a straight(ish) line, nor, probably, stop at all. I can remember a car actually gaining momentum on ice while braking &, on another occasion, being unable to stop sliding down a hill backwards, even though in low with the wheels still scrabbling for grip (although 4WD might've helped in that situation - then again I've had an XJ start to slide back down a snowy slope, as soon as the parking brake was released,& the brakes having little or no effect. Can't now recall how I got out of that scenario, but it's an experience I'm anxious not to repeat.
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https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...s&gad_source=1
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My driving experience above 9000 feet leads to a different conclusion - correct tool for the specific job. But I wouldn't drive through mud bogs in the Hocking Hills in a snow tire, if that's your point of reference.
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I agree. Dedicated winter tires or good all season radials with lots of sipes are valuable in winter driving. Does it mean you can drive at freeway speeds, no but you can drive safely if driving sensibly
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Snow tires are worthless off road, and I have never needed them on a 4x4, I can plow though 18" of snow in 4x4 with MT tires while vehicles with snow tires are getting stuck.
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But on road, packed snow and ice, higher speeds and traffic, you need all the help you can get. That’s where the different tread compound and patterns really shine.
Depends what you’re gonna use the vehicle for.
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Powder snow is differnt from sugar snow is different from flakey snow. Frosts ices and slushes are each their own cans of worms repectivly. Road conditions change so adapt as you go.
RELAX and lighten your grip on the wheel. Put on some chill tunes and accept that taking longer to get there is easier and faster than getting un stuck.
A four wheel set of chains is cheaper and faster than calling a tow truck.
Snow tires in all four corners + strap 100 pounds of ballast to the floor over the rear axle.
RELAX go easy on the take offs, easy on the stops and brake gently and brake early.
If you start to slide GET OFF THE BRAKES and steer into the slide.
When in the slick use 4x4 only when you need to. It helps with GO but not steer or stop. It makes it too easy to go too fast. Try it in an iced over parking lot to see what I mean.
The Inuit have 60+ different names for the different snow and ice onditions. I've driven in most of them.
RELAX and lighten your grip on the wheel. Put on some chill tunes and accept that taking longer to get there is easier and faster than getting un stuck.
A four wheel set of chains is cheaper and faster than calling a tow truck.
Snow tires in all four corners + strap 100 pounds of ballast to the floor over the rear axle.
RELAX go easy on the take offs, easy on the stops and brake gently and brake early.
If you start to slide GET OFF THE BRAKES and steer into the slide.
When in the slick use 4x4 only when you need to. It helps with GO but not steer or stop. It makes it too easy to go too fast. Try it in an iced over parking lot to see what I mean.
The Inuit have 60+ different names for the different snow and ice onditions. I've driven in most of them.
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Powder snow is differnt from sugar snow is different from flakey snow. Frosts ices and slushes are each their own cans of worms repectivly. Road conditions change so adapt as you go.
RELAX and lighten your grip on the wheel. Put on some chill tunes and accept that taking longer to get there is easier and faster than getting un stuck.
A four wheel set of chains is cheaper and faster than calling a tow truck.
Snow tires in all four corners + strap 100 pounds of ballast to the floor over the rear axle.
RELAX go easy on the take offs, easy on the stops and brake gently and brake early.
If you start to slide GET OFF THE BRAKES and steer into the slide.
When in the slick use 4x4 only when you need to. It helps with GO but not steer or stop. It makes it too easy to go too fast. Try it in an iced over parking lot to see what I mean.
The Inuit have 60+ different names for the different snow and ice onditions. I've driven in most of them.
RELAX and lighten your grip on the wheel. Put on some chill tunes and accept that taking longer to get there is easier and faster than getting un stuck.
A four wheel set of chains is cheaper and faster than calling a tow truck.
Snow tires in all four corners + strap 100 pounds of ballast to the floor over the rear axle.
RELAX go easy on the take offs, easy on the stops and brake gently and brake early.
If you start to slide GET OFF THE BRAKES and steer into the slide.
When in the slick use 4x4 only when you need to. It helps with GO but not steer or stop. It makes it too easy to go too fast. Try it in an iced over parking lot to see what I mean.
The Inuit have 60+ different names for the different snow and ice onditions. I've driven in most of them.



