bigboy813

Umm i got some 30x9.50 Hankook MT as you can see in the pic and there is rubbing on the front bumper ends i need to trim them but with what type of cutting tool is best and i need help removing my splash guard because it is also rubbing for some reason if someone can post a link on how to that it would be great thanks.

EvilMaster

What's the backspacing on those?? 4"?? Enjoy your flares while you have them, because once you stuff those you will probably be knocking the flares off.





http://www.bc4x4.com/pv/xj/napier-flares/

bigboy813

the back spacing is 3.75 with a offset of -6mm

EvilMaster

Yeah, I figured as much. That's the problem. With stock backspacing you wouldn't be needing to trim anything. Better bump stop those good or you are going to demo your fenders/flares.

You might want to look into a 2" bb.

bigboy813

did i make a mistake ? i thought 3.75 is what is best or is that only in the case of havin a lift

bigboy813

your scaring me know saying im gonna demo my fenders

EvilMaster

3.75" backspacing is popular for guys with 31" or larger tires and a 3.5" or higher lift. The goal here is to be able to stuff your tires under your fenders. With 3.75" backspacing you are going to stuff your tires into your fenders. Bumpstoping will help you until you can get a lift going. I wouldn't be trying to do any rock crawling for now if I were you.

bigboy813

what about mudding ?

EvilMaster

Well...Just look at the tire. See how far it sticks out?...Look at the distance between the top of the tire and your fender. What's going to happen if you compress that suspension?...Where will the tire go?

That's right. It's going to hit your fender.

You can either bumpstop it to limit suspension travel. Or you can lift it. Or, just don't go over anything that is going to cause your suspension to compress that much, and just hope that you don't hit any big potholes or anything.

Or you can put your new tires on your stock rims for now and be fine.

bigboy813

so a lift will create enough distance and angular movement so that the tire tucks inside the fender well? i just got these from discount tires could i possible return them got them on the 4th of october? being today for me still

oh and might i add i drove up a curb to test the clearance it was pretty tight, also i went over a large size speed bump at like 20 and it was all good but that was with one tire on and one tire off

EvilMaster

There are different kinds of Jeep fans. On one hand you have the keep it shiny crowd. These guys will do small lifts 2-3.5" and will put 3.75" backspaced rims on it (properly bumpstopped) because they like the aggressive look. And they know they will probably never go crazy offroad with it. So they can keep their stock flares and not really trim anything. Usually 31" tires and the Jeep is on-road 90+% of the time.

Then you have the casual offroader/daily driver types. They'll do pretty much the same as the keep it shiny crowd except they'll add cutout fender flares to give the tires room to move.

Then you have the true offroad crowd. When these guys put 3.75" backspacing on it's usually to accommodate 33" to 35" x 12.5 tires to keep the large tires off the leaf springs under their 4.5" or more lift, also they usually have their fenders all trimmed back to accommodate the tires under articulation.

bigboy813

great way to put it im kinda the shiny guy but i like climbing hills and go mudding i most likely wont go crawling cause i really don't want my vehicle to get dings and smashed doors etc, but i would like my vehicle to articulate properly. how would a 4 inch back spacing work for the stock height with my same tires

EvilMaster

4" will probably still hit the fenders. If I was putting 30x9.5 aggressive tread tires on a stock height Cherokee I would stick with stock backspacing. Maybe 5". Then you would have a fairly capable offroad machine even with stock suspension.

You just put nice new aggressive tires on your Jeep, I'd set it up so that I could go trail riding and enjoy it without having to worry about knocking my flares off or crunching up my fenders and chewing up the tires on the fenders.

CRoading

Its either trimming your fenders or adding some lift... Which one would you go?

CAEMI

Lift it.