Manually Powering a Relay?
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Carbondale, Illinois
Posts: 853
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Inline 6
Manually Powering a Relay?
Hey guys got a quick question on electronics.
i've been toying with an idea to just the wires to my electric fan and hardwire it to a switch in the cab.
i just had a second though. The fan is controlled by a relay correct? Is there any way i could manually power the relay. Say run the wire from the switch to the relay, and that way i could turn it on when i wanted and the computer could turn it on if it wanted?
i've been toying with an idea to just the wires to my electric fan and hardwire it to a switch in the cab.
i just had a second though. The fan is controlled by a relay correct? Is there any way i could manually power the relay. Say run the wire from the switch to the relay, and that way i could turn it on when i wanted and the computer could turn it on if it wanted?
#3
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Carbondale, Illinois
Posts: 853
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Inline 6
#4
CF Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,117
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes
on
3 Posts
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 stock
Not really. It is just 1 more component. The diode is only to allow the PCM to switch on the relay if it wants to and prevent voltage from entering the wire when the hard wired switch is on.
#5
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Carbondale, Illinois
Posts: 853
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Inline 6
How would i go about finding the power wire? Relays do nothing but confuse me
#6
CF Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,117
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes
on
3 Posts
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 stock
Did some checking...
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/pow...y-issue-93189/
If the PCM grounds the relay pin you shouldn't need a diode.
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/pow...y-issue-93189/
If the PCM grounds the relay pin you shouldn't need a diode.
#7
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Carbondale, Illinois
Posts: 853
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Inline 6
so according to that thread, i should run a wire from 1-4 with the switch inbetween and id be good to go?
Trending Topics
#9
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Carbondale, Illinois
Posts: 853
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Inline 6
Ohh ok so i would be manually opening the ground instead of waiting for the pcm to ok it. gotcha. what gauge wire should i use? and do i need a fuse?
#10
CF Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,117
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes
on
3 Posts
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 stock
Regular stranded 20 gauge automotive wire will suffice. A relay doesn't draw much power. For the fuse... since you are supplying ground if the wire gets chaffed the worst that will happen is the wire becomes grounded and the fan won't turn off.
#11
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Carbondale, Illinois
Posts: 853
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Inline 6
Originally Posted by razor02097
Regular stranded 20 gauge automotive wire will suffice. A relay doesn't draw much power. For the fuse... since you are supplying ground if the wire gets chaffed the worst that will happen is the wire becomes grounded and the fan won't turn off.
#13
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Carbondale, Illinois
Posts: 853
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Inline 6
Originally Posted by razor02097
Good luck, wiring is always fun
#14
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Carbondale, Illinois
Posts: 853
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Inline 6
Ok, ran into some issues.
Everytime I hook it up the fuse #10 inside the cab kick panel blows. Ideas?
Everytime I hook it up the fuse #10 inside the cab kick panel blows. Ideas?
#15
Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Ringsted
Posts: 178
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 L
the post that takes about the fan is on a 88, i dont know the year of yours. but looking at it, the number 2 pin gets plus from either the temp. switch or the ac relea.
this is why you blow the fuse,
so you would need the give it a plus. i would connect my switch to plus in one end, with a fuse, and the other end the the wire from the temp switch, which not has not has plus with ignitionkey in position on. that way you dont need a diode. if you connect directly to the relea, you will need a diode.
this is why you blow the fuse,
so you would need the give it a plus. i would connect my switch to plus in one end, with a fuse, and the other end the the wire from the temp switch, which not has not has plus with ignitionkey in position on. that way you dont need a diode. if you connect directly to the relea, you will need a diode.