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Old 04-02-2012, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by sgt_why
Yeah, I did the tests for the fuel pressure regulator but it was confusing.

the test says to remove the vacuum tube and the fuel pressure should jump up 8-10 psi -- which is does not.

in fact, removing it or leaving it on makes no change.

So perhaps thats the issue -- but I haven't had time to do much more testing yet.
Something you need to do is to VERIFY the vacuum line leading to the fuel pressure regulator. Be darn sure that it is pulling good vacuum; if it isn't, that new regulator of yours isn't going to work properly and you will need to get solid vacuum returned to that line. While you're at it, inspect all vacuum lines for cracking and deterioration; a very common problem on older XJs.

And also ensure that the vacuum line is not wet with raw fuel, which indicates a ruptured fuel pressure regulator.

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Old 04-02-2012, 04:03 PM
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Motor Man Fuel Injection Supply he has a Ebay store and website. They are reconditioned but hey its a Jeep. My 2001 XJ uses the 784 and they were plug and play. My fuel pressure has been good since they were installed with better start and idle.
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Originally Posted by tjwalker
The check valve is located on top of the gas tank and is part of the fuel pump assembly on 95.5-2001 vintage 4.0 XJs. When the check valve starts to fail, it reduces fuel pressure to a point where an extended crank is needed to start the engine. It is a very common failure. I experienced it on my 99 at around 75K.

A good (and simple) way to troubleshoot this problem is called “the poor mans prime”

1. Turn key to ON position (do not crank the engine!)
2. The fuel pump will energize and run for a couple of seconds
3. Turn key to OFF position
4. Repeat above a two more times
5. NOW crank the engine over

If the engine starts quickly and cleanly after performing this procedure, you may have the check valve issue. If it starts and runs poorly for a few seconds, it could also be a leaky fuel injector resulting in the bleed down and the stumble upon startup is the engine clearing the excess fuel that has leaked into the cylinder because of the faulty injector.

Also be aware that a bad battery can give you this symptom. Sounds strange but it definitely does happen. Have battery load tested if you have any questions; your XJ does NOT like low available battery voltage. Be sure battery connections and posts are CLEAN.

Some troubleshooting tips for extended crank times:

Hook up fuel pressure gauge on the schrader valve on the fuel rail

Start engine and bring to normal operating temperature.

Observe test gauge. Normal operating pressure should be 49.2 psi (plus or minus 5 psi)

Shut engine off.

Pressure should not fall below 30 psi for five minutes.

If pressure falls below 30 psi, it must be determined if a fuel injector, the check valve within the
fuel pump module, or a fuel tube/line is leaking. An adaptor tool/hose included with the fuel pressure gauge can help you with this. Consult gauge manual for more information on this but here is basically how it works:

*Turn the engine off and immediately clamp the fuel line at the adaptor hose. Watch the pressure gauge and see how long it takes to lose pressure.

*If the pressure remains at 49 psi for an extended period of time then the problem is in the tank - possibly the check valve. If the pressure falls below 49 psi fairly rapidly then the problem is probably a leaky fuel injector.

You can limp a check valve problem along indefinitely if you wish as it doesn't mean the fuel pump itself is going bad. Normally, the check valve is replaced as an entire assembly as you have to drop the gas tank to access the assembly. Fuel pump assembly consists of fuel pump, regulator, check valve, filter. If you do replace the fuel pump assembly, purchase a high quality OEM style unit. Some cheap aftermarket assemblies don’t hold up and fail prematurely.
Just in case ...
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/f...97s-up-138580/

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