lets try this again
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so after 6 months of throwing money at new parts I finally figured out the rumble I was getting. the tires!! I noticed that my duratracs in the front were wearing uneven. not in the typical way. the chunks or lugs on the center part of the front tires aren't wearing evenly. some lugs stick out further than others causing an unevenness that can be felt when I run my hand through them. so I took off the fronts and swapped them out with the backs. sure as ****, the rumble is mostly gone but I still hear a loud wa wa wa noise when I drive. that noise was coming from the front now its coming from the back. could it be an alignment issue or could it be a tire pressure issue? they were at 35 and I lowered them to 30. this is it.20141213_154512_z.jpg?1462755485728&1462755488272&1462755488504&1462755492071&1462755492738
this is one of the back tires. nice and even
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this is one o the fronts. notice how the some of the lugs bulge out on both front tires
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so what do I do? do I leave them be and drive around with a pretty loud wa wa wa noice starting at 20mph or do I need to replace them
this is one of the back tires. nice and even
20160508_173219_z.jpg?1462755485717&1462755488267&1462755488500&1462755492065&1462755492732
this is one o the fronts. notice how the some of the lugs bulge out on both front tires
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so what do I do? do I leave them be and drive around with a pretty loud wa wa wa noice starting at 20mph or do I need to replace them
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so after 6 months of throwing money at new parts I finally figured out the rumble I was getting. the tires!! I noticed that my duratracs in the front were wearing uneven. not in the typical way. the chunks or lugs on the center part of the front tires aren't wearing evenly. some lugs stick out further than others causing an unevenness that can be felt when I run my hand through them. so I took off the fronts and swapped them out with the backs. sure as ****, the rumble is mostly gone but I still hear a loud wa wa wa noise when I drive. that noise was coming from the front now its coming from the back. could it be an alignment issue or could it be a tire pressure issue? they were at 35 and I lowered them to 30. this is it. this is one of the back tires. nice and even this is one o the fronts. notice how the some of the lugs bulge out on both front tires so what do I do? do I leave them be and drive around with a pretty loud wa wa wa noice starting at 20mph or do I need to replace them
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That would be cupping. Do you ever rotate your tires? Also, I'm pretty sure people said tires were the problem in the last thread you made, point to be made it always consider what someone says as a possibility.
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From what I've been reading many people have had this issue with knoby tires. They need to be rotated frequently but but I've only put 10k on them. Yes others mentioned tires I just couldn't believe I got such loud rumble at such low speeds. I've never seen tires wear like this. Oh well
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Originally Posted by samhain
From what I've been reading many people have had this issue with knoby tires. They need to be rotated frequently but but I've only put 10k on them. Yes others mentioned tires I just couldn't believe I got such loud rumble at such low speeds. I've never seen tires wear like this. Oh well
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In all honesty I would continue to drive on them. They'll be noisy and it takes a long time to get rid of cupping, but if they're still decently new just drive on them. Switch the direction of rotation of the cupped tires for a while and they'll even out eventually. As I said though, they will be noisy..
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You could try jacking up the front tire and spinning it by hand while observing if it is tracking in a straight line. We used to do that in the tire shop to check for a separated radial band.
Not familiar with this tire but a radial tire band will separate if damaged, you'd be able to see it spinning it, or detect other problem like bent rim.
Another thing is alignment, or of course defective loose parts in the front end. Usual suspects being track bar, track bar mount holes, steering pump broken loose, ball joints. steering damper shot or loose.
Not familiar with this tire but a radial tire band will separate if damaged, you'd be able to see it spinning it, or detect other problem like bent rim.
Another thing is alignment, or of course defective loose parts in the front end. Usual suspects being track bar, track bar mount holes, steering pump broken loose, ball joints. steering damper shot or loose.
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After upgrading to the ZJ tie rod I had my toe set in about five minutes.
Looking over the list of changes you made, If you are doing the ZJ upgrade go ahead and put in a new drag link so you will have all new TREs on it just in case. After that if you haven't done ball joints that would be the next culprit I could think of.
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I could have told you it was tires... My big horns did the same thing, when I got them they were all uneven worn cause the PO never rotated. Yup every oil change with tires like that.
Well now you got lots of new parts
Well now you got lots of new parts


