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I've got a '97 Jeep and It has some serious sagging/holes in it. I'm fairly inexperienced as far as this kind of thing goes. I've looked at a few online tutorials, it looks easy enough. Is this the general experience of most people? If you have any advice it would be much appreciated.
i cant get onthe link for some reason but i recently replaced mine.i had absolutely no idea what i was doing when i started but it came out pretty nice! i used heavy camo fabric from joans fabric store and 2 cans of 3m spray glue ( coulda used 3). the hardest part was scraping all the old glue and rotten foam backing from the fiberglass. i suggest taking your time and not rushing. i messed up a cut and had to do a small patch cause i wasnt paying attention so remember measure twice! it really wasnt nearly as hard as i thought. even did my sun visors with just the spray glue and no sewing!
My only problem right now is that ive started taking the trim apart and from what I can see now there is no cardboard under the foam, maybe im just getting worked up before i know whats going on. Thanks for the help people
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its more like a fiber glass matt than cardboard. get all of the side trim loose and overhead light, etc. and the whole section will pull right out of the back. I redid my healiner about 6 months ago and it was pretty easy and looks great. My two tips would be use 3 cans of the best spray glue that you can find and let it dry overnight before putting her back in. I got foam backed headliner fabric from Joann's fabrics for about 12-15 bucks a yard. You could probably use alot of different things though.
I redid mine last summer. (An afternoon of easy work) I got mine off the INTERNET, used org. color, And did the over head console at the same time. (total cost $50.) Pull the trim off, front to back. And overhead light ,or console. Sun visors, Seatbelt mounts, and sound bar (if you have one) There's four clips along the roof, Two on each side. Fiber panel pulls out the back. (Try not to bend it too much) Brush off the old glue, leaving the plastic film. Lay fiber board on flat surface, lay material over with about 1" over hang. Then I rolled it back to center. doing about 6" at a time. towards the end. Did 1/2, then from center to the other end. flipped it over sprayed the 1" overhang. And folded that over (Including console & light openings) Cut any thing over that off. Reinstalled. (I did throw a layer of sound damping material on the inside of the roof, before reinstall. Because of the stereo I have in it.)
i bought the same material on ebay and 2 cans of 3m. probablys should have bought 3 cans but 2 was fine. mine turned out perfect afterward and even had plenty to re do the speaker rack thing in the top too! i did mine black, so its 2 tone now.
Decided carpeting headliners wasn't my thing. Custom painted my ceiling black. Had to take more time sanding it down, 2 layers of primer and one of dark black. Actually looks pretty cool if you don't mind the retro/grunge look. Hey, it's a jeep. Spent about $35 on paint/primer. Need to spend the $$$ for all the other **** that breaks down haha. Message me if you want tips, wasn't too difficult but coulda been more efficient.
Finished product, missing ceiling lamps. Once the weather changes, might paint the trim that holds it together.
Second coat of primer
Dry paint. 1 layer looked good enough to me. Plus i wanted it inmediately, needed to let it air dry for a few hours!
Headliner was sagging in my '00. In my town we have a guy. He is the go to guy for all the classic car upholstery needs. I had to pull the headliner and drop it off. $125. I just figured I would try to buy matching fabric. Spend $15/can on the good 3M spray adhesive. Some one said you need about 1 1/2 cans. Do all the work. Do it poorly. And would have dropped $60 bucks for nothing. Sometimes it is just easier to let the experts handle it. Did not even do my visors. They were in good shape. Perfect match. Not sorry at all that I spent the $125.
Headliner was sagging in my '00. In my town we have a guy. He is the go to guy for all the classic car upholstery needs. I had to pull the headliner and drop it off. $125. I just figured I would try to buy matching fabric. Spend $15/can on the good 3M spray adhesive. Some one said you need about 1 1/2 cans. Do all the work. Do it poorly. And would have dropped $60 bucks for nothing. Sometimes it is just easier to let the experts handle it. Did not even do my visors. They were in good shape. Perfect match. Not sorry at all that I spent the $125.
That was my logic for having the pros do mine. $200 for the headliner, visors and soundbar. They did a great job. Could have done it much cheaper myself, but I didn't feel like messing with it.
On my 92' Sport, my headliner was sagging like yours. To fix it I tore the trim out of the entire inside (mostly the top). After this you may have to the rear seat belts with a pneumatic drill/air wrench, however this can be avoided by simply cutting small slits in the headliner to slide past the seatbelt bolts. Another issue is the interior light. Pry the cover off with a knife or a screw driver. Next, remove the bulb. After that it get a bit difficult, this is challenging because it doesn't use screws or nuts. Simply grab the ferrel from the post, with pliers, and pull off. This too can be an issue so take your time. Once this is done gently remove the headliner through the rear lift gate. Have a place to set it where it will be flat, I used a pair of saw horses. During this process be gentle because you do not want to bend the foam and put wrinkles in it. Once it is on a flat surface slowly peel away the old headliner material from the foam, try not to rip it or damage the foam. After you have removed the headliner from the foam use a plastic stiff bristle brush to brush away the old adhesive, it is wise to a shop vac to collect the debris after you brush it through the interior light hole on pot the ground. After this to replace the headliner use some sort of adhesive, like 3M spray glue or something of your choice, to spray a coat of glue onto the interior side of the foam. The next step is to take your headliner material and apply it to the foam, be careful this may be challenging to undo and you Amy damage the foam so try and get it right the first time. After this wait for it to dry. Once it is dry cut holes where the accessory holes are, I.e. Interior light(s), speakers, visor mounts, etc. the final step is to simply reapply the refurbished headliner to the Jeep and to put all the the trim back in its place. It is also helpful to put all of the screws, nuts, etc from this project into ziplock bags and to tape the bags to there specific trim piece. As well as labeling all of you trim pieces.
That was my logic for having the pros do mine. $200 for the headliner, visors and soundbar. They did a great job. Could have done it much cheaper myself, but I didn't feel like messing with it.
They pulled the headliner? If so $200 for all that seems very reasonable. Would have been $250 for me if he had to pull the headliner. Not sure how much more for the visors. I could have probably gotten it done cheaper a couple towns over but.... The sound bar in an '00 is part of the headliner. You own a '97? Is the soundbar not part of the headliner in a '97? Mine was all one piece. Just curious.
They pulled the headliner? If so $200 for all that seems very reasonable. Would have been $250 for me if he had to pull the headliner. Not sure how much more for the visors. I could have probably gotten it done cheaper a couple towns over but.... The sound bar in an '00 is part of the headliner. You own a '97? Is the soundbar not part of the headliner in a '97? Mine was all one piece. Just curious.
Yes, they pulled the headliner themselves. The 1997 has a separate sound bar piece. Its not molded into the headliner like the newer Cherokees. I thought it was a good price and $150 cheaper then the other person I got a quote from.
One of the things that I wish I knew about before I replaced my headliner was the use and location of metal clips that are part of the trim molding over the rear hatch and over the front doors and along the windshield. These clips use spring tension to hold the trim piece to the frame of the vehicle. Because the trim pieces have been there for at least 15 years, the plastic is brittle and it breaks away from the metal clips easily. I would recommend using a pry tool and pry down on the metal clips. There are two clips on the trim over the rear hatch and I believe three on the trim over the doors and along side the windshield.
Other than that, the most tedious part was cleaning the old foam off of the board.
Good luck!