gear heads! need some input! good disscussion
yea, because buying a $800 beater is going to make or break the american automakers.
regear it. it will cost as much as a beater, you only need to buy insurance for one car.
I bought a daily driver before, It just sat there, I drove my xj most of the time anyway (spooled on boggers)
regear it. it will cost as much as a beater, you only need to buy insurance for one car.
I bought a daily driver before, It just sat there, I drove my xj most of the time anyway (spooled on boggers)
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Spoken for truth. You never know when you may need to tear down your junk for a few days to do a rear main, head gasket or hell put a decent lift on it. That is why Tess and I have 3 vehicles so if one is down we still have transportation.
I think we are a little off track, but let me say. Any auto that is bought and the money goes back to show a profit in an AMERICAN co. Is an AMERICAN auto. Yes Nissan, Toyota, Honda and the like have assembly plants in north america, but profit goes back overseas. Thats not an american co. RE-GEAR I hope to one day.
The profits of all auto makers don't end up in just one country, think of the jobs created by the japenese companies. They are here to save money as well, but are making jobs for our countrymen and women. What you fail to see that everyone in this country, especially if you shop at large retail outlets can see most items that are purchased are manufactured in the far east. So no matter what, the money will end up there. But, people in the far east are consuming U.S. products all the time, and at a far faster rate than the US does!
Did you ever notice how many american fast food chains are over there? Their society is getting fat right along with us. Walmart is in china, japan, thailand and everywhere around the world. Honestly, on the scale the world population consumes all items like food, fuel, clothing, autos, etc, It would be stupid to not import/export. Simply put, if the USA tried to be completely self sufficient, and didn't import or export anything, ALL recsources would be depleted in less than 50 years. I would imagine it would be a different story if immigration was outlawed in say the 50's. Obviously that could never happen because ALL of our ancestors are immigrants, even the native tribes, the crossed the ice bridge at the bering sea. Outlawing immigration is comparable to removing our 2nd ammendment rights.
The bigger is better gluttonious mentalty that us americans are destroying our country has spread like a disaese across the planet, and it will be only a matter of time before gluttony and overpopulation will be the death of us. Not anytime in our lifetimes, mind you, so continue doing what you are doing, I know I probably will one way or another.
Now that I am off my soap box, My opinion is re-gear, unless you have a beater you can get for next to nothing so when you are done with it, you can drive over it before you take it in for scrap.
Oh yeah, go ahead and come after me for my rant. If I am wrong I will be willing to be re-educated. Just don't go off half-cocked before you know the facts
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The profits of all auto makers don't end up in just one country, think of the jobs created by the japenese companies. They are here to save money as well, but are making jobs for our countrymen and women. What you fail to see that everyone in this country, especially if you shop at large retail outlets can see most items that are purchased are manufactured in the far east. So no matter what, the money will end up there. But, people in the far east are consuming U.S. products all the time, and at a far faster rate than the US does!
Did you ever notice how many american fast food chains are over there? Their society is getting fat right along with us. Walmart is in china, japan, thailand and everywhere around the world. Honestly, on the scale the world population consumes all items like food, fuel, clothing, autos, etc, It would be stupid to not import/export. Simply put, if the USA tried to be completely self sufficient, and didn't import or export anything, ALL recsources would be depleted in less than 50 years. I would imagine it would be a different story if immigration was outlawed in say the 50's. Obviously that could never happen because ALL of our ancestors are immigrants, even the native tribes, the crossed the ice bridge at the bering sea. Outlawing immigration is comparable to removing our 2nd ammendment rights.
The bigger is better gluttonious mentalty that us americans are destroying our country has spread like a disaese across the planet, and it will be only a matter of time before gluttony and overpopulation will be the death of us. Not anytime in our lifetimes, mind you, so continue doing what you are doing, I know I probably will one way or another.
Now that I am off my soap box, My opinion is re-gear, unless you have a beater you can get for next to nothing so when you are done with it, you can drive over it before you take it in for scrap.
Oh yeah, go ahead and come after me for my rant. If I am wrong I will be willing to be re-educated. Just don't go off half-cocked before you know the facts
Did you ever notice how many american fast food chains are over there? Their society is getting fat right along with us. Walmart is in china, japan, thailand and everywhere around the world. Honestly, on the scale the world population consumes all items like food, fuel, clothing, autos, etc, It would be stupid to not import/export. Simply put, if the USA tried to be completely self sufficient, and didn't import or export anything, ALL recsources would be depleted in less than 50 years. I would imagine it would be a different story if immigration was outlawed in say the 50's. Obviously that could never happen because ALL of our ancestors are immigrants, even the native tribes, the crossed the ice bridge at the bering sea. Outlawing immigration is comparable to removing our 2nd ammendment rights.
The bigger is better gluttonious mentalty that us americans are destroying our country has spread like a disaese across the planet, and it will be only a matter of time before gluttony and overpopulation will be the death of us. Not anytime in our lifetimes, mind you, so continue doing what you are doing, I know I probably will one way or another.
Now that I am off my soap box, My opinion is re-gear, unless you have a beater you can get for next to nothing so when you are done with it, you can drive over it before you take it in for scrap.
Oh yeah, go ahead and come after me for my rant. If I am wrong I will be willing to be re-educated. Just don't go off half-cocked before you know the facts

It would cost less than any make of beater.
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I have a little sedan so I bought the xj for winter use and home depot runs. I am hoping to balance the driving over the 2 of them. should be about 5k miles a year on the xj- hoping the thing can at least handle that.



too much coffee.