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Old Dec 22, 2020 | 01:08 PM
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so while I was in the process of replacing my engine I took the manifold off to get it de-carbonized and sand blasted so I could put a nice, new, clean, and painted manifold on my new engine. During the painting process I found this.....


How screwed am i? It looks a bit like the oring would be big enough to still make a seal but I don't know. I had been smelling gas while driving but it was only when the ac was on (not heat though) and the vacuum line on the fuel regulator was all worn out so I thought it was that.

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Old Dec 22, 2020 | 02:51 PM
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Right nasty looking damage. Don't know if I'd take a chance with it or not. Lot of work reinstalling it to find out it's not going to seal. I'm definitely not fond of fuel leaks. Can't be that much for a used manifold to replace that one.
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Old Dec 22, 2020 | 03:53 PM
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Right nasty looking damage. Don't know if I'd take a chance with it or not. Lot of work reinstalling it to find out it's not going to seal. I'm definitely not fond of fuel leaks. Can't be that much for a used manifold to replace that one.
I was worried you'd say that. I just spent $100 getting this one sand blasted since I hadn't noticed that.... Unlucky
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Old Dec 22, 2020 | 04:37 PM
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I don't actually see any damage. Full send is my opinion
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Old Dec 22, 2020 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Griffyorcono
I don't actually see any damage. Full send is my opinion
It isn't that I don't appreciate your optimism but eh... Did you look at the first picture? Lol

So you don't think that little ***** would cause the seal to leak? Is it because the actual sealing point is on the sides or the corner where the ***** doesn't get to or what?
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Old Dec 22, 2020 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Lordmonk3y
It isn't that I don't appreciate your optimism but eh... Did you look at the first picture? Lol

So you don't think that little ***** would cause the seal to leak? Is it because the actual sealing point is on the sides or the corner where the ***** doesn't get to or what?
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Ooooh that little spot at the end. Heck you're fine you just answered your own question. That is not even close to the o-ring. The o-ring seals the outer edge and I may be blind but I see no damage to the outer edge
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The o rings on those fuel injectors are pretty beefy I doubt that spot is going to cause any problems.
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Old Dec 22, 2020 | 06:00 PM
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Never messed with those O-rings before but have with o-rings on many other types of applications before. Damaged seats had always been a concern. But if you guys feel he should give it a go I'll cede to y'alls experience.
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That chip is on the bottom surface. The o-ring seals against the larger dia tube. That chip will have no adverse effects
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Is it a chip ?? It appears to be something on it more than a chip...
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Old Dec 22, 2020 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by EZEARL
Never messed with those O-rings before but have with o-rings on many other types of applications before. Damaged seats had always been a concern. But if you guys feel he should give it a go I'll cede to y'alls experience.
If you end up being right I'll post back here I guess. I guess I'll have to do a smell test or something once it's all back together.

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That chip is on the bottom surface. The o-ring seals against the larger dia tube. That chip will have no adverse effects
alright well I'll give it a go then.

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Is it a chip ?? It appears to be something on it more than a chip...
Yeah it's a chip. Deep one too. No idea how the heck it happened
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Old Dec 22, 2020 | 07:48 PM
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Thanks everyone
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There's always Alumaloy. Remember it melts at just 728 degrees and it's stronger than the base metal. It can be machined and tapped.....
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There's always Alumaloy. Remember it melts at just 728 degrees and it's stronger than the base metal. It can be machined and tapped.....
Hmmmmmmm.... I don't know that I had the tooling to make that happen but it is a good idea
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Ditto on it being a non-issue, as the o-ring presses on the sides of the hole and the injector tip extends below that. Looks like it has carbon in the chip, so I'd guess it came from the factory that way. Beside a minor leak on the intake side will be a vacuum leak and not fuel spraying out.
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