If I was drifting around a gravel corner at 35+ and lost control....it would be because I was driving like an ***, not because I don't have a sway bar.

 

This!!!!

 

I didn't loose control though.. I prob shoulda said that. My point was about the loss of translation of body roll.

I'm assuming this was aimed at me? Idk..

 

I run my xj 4.5 inch lift long arms on 35s no sway bars front or rear it drives fine i am usually the one that argues running a front sway bar you wont need it but i do alot of high way driving for my new job and im putting the front back in for more of a controlled ride i drove sway barless for years but once i put one back in im going to be happier with less body roll leave it in on windy days youll wish you had it

 

This^^^ is bull. By this logic you would have to fail every lifted truck you come across because they don't have oem parts on them....higher center of gravity makes any vehicle less stable in 'emergency manoeuvres'...right?

 

My XJ is at 6" lift with long arms and no sway bars on 33"s. the body roll is not all that bad with normal driving. Now if I'm doing 40 mph and decide to make a sharp turn with out slowing down then yes it will have a wicked lean.

 

What is this sway bar thing everyone is speaking about ?

 

lol

 

I took it off long time ago but now I went iro's long arm kit I still won't use it lol

 

Absolutely. Were you to fatally injure someone you would certainly be charged with negligence resulting in death. Even if you weren't, and the wreck was bad enough, you can rest assured that insurance would drop you instantly.

Not at all - depending on the vehicle and how long you've been moving, 70mph can feel like 30 really easily. Driver perception is huge and a major contributing factor for accidents.

Even if you drive very carefully, unless the fastest you go is like 5 mph, you always run the risk of loosing control. Only a fool would think that they are 100% in control of their vehicle. Maybe they have 35s on a D35 and their axles pop out. Doing 50 mph? Guess what - you just lost control and skidded into oncoming traffic. Kid jumps out from behind a bus that *doesn't* have the lights on? Instinct to slam the brakes, but it's not good enough so you swerve - oops sorry you just rolled over into that minivan and crushed everyone along the driver's side.

Is someone's life REALLY worth less than extended links with disconnects? Because that's what you guys are all saying: That the risk of taking a little kid's life is worth less to you than some part. Think about it.

No - OEM branding isn't the issue and replacement is fine. Removing factory safety equipment will cause problems. Like removing your brakes or seat belts. When being tested and certified, the functionality listed in the vehicle specs MUST be present. Similarly you will fail emissions tests if emissions equipment is removed. Nobody gives a rats **** if you put a Walker branded converter in place of your Mopar - but there has to be a cat, gas cap, etc.

 

It'd be awfully hard to prove negligence.

You know how many vehicles are on the road that really shouldn't be? Not just lifted Jeeps either.

Like I said earlier. I bought my XJ with the sway bar missing in the rear, and disco'd in the front. The links werent even there.

How are you going to prove a guy with no actual automotive education would know what that piece is, let alone that its as critical as all the nay sayers want everyone to believe.

No, I do not suggest it for everyone, but I have yet to have issue.

 

Not actually bull. Just because a vehicle has aftermarket parts and has a higher center of gravity doesn't mean it fails. But say a vehicle comes from the factor with a "anti-roll" device like a sway bar and it is broken or missing at time of inspection it will fail. And some vehicles do not have sway bars from the factory.

 

You are correct however you have to read your laws as it varies state to state. Some states have a blanket statement about original equipment designed for safety some don't. It's really gonna fall on the inspector but technically the front roll bar would fall under the blanket statement. It's not by the fact that its modified but whether it actually has the item installed or not. Also many people ignore this fact but many states laws refer to trucks for lift laws and because our xjs don't have frames and a couple other things they actually don't fall into that category making it technically illegal to lift them in some states. Most people totally ignore that bit if you go by the letter....

 

My Cherokee has a 3in and my front sway bars are disconnected because they broke while putting on the lift. My rears are still connected with the stock links. While driving at 45mph, ill hit a bump in the road and my front end gets pretty squirrely. I have a new set of stock fronts to put on. I firmly believe in front sway bars connected for on road driving. Im doing it because I know it will handle better when I get my 31s next month and for the safety of my 2yo when hes with me. Best option is the quick disconnects if you have the money, if not then keep em connected IMO

 

You got stock replacements instead of extended links?