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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 01:32 PM
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Is there I can hook up the Dana 44 out of a bronco in my Xj that will have locking hubs, but also able to still use my in cabin 4x4 lever on the floor to engage and disengage the 4x4? I was talking to a friend and he said I could get a transfer case that wasn't spinning my front drive shaft at all times and then just leave the front d44s hubs locked and then I could still use the selectable lever on the floor to engage the front drive shaft. Is this possible with the Cherokee? Are they're any transfer cases that are stock that don't keep the front drive shaft spinning at all times? I have access to a front d44 and rear 9in out of a bronco, but I really want to keep the selectable feature in the cabin.
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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 01:39 PM
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well first off why on earth would you run on the street with your hubs locked......second yes the 231 has 2wd in the transfer case and is what came in most xjs....that 44 will not take well to being spun all the time you will want to lock the hubs for offroad and unlock the hubs on,i wish i could
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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 01:40 PM
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what year XJ? also is it a radius arm dana 44. if so I'd stay away from it as the tubes are no stronger then the dana 30 that you have now.
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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 01:42 PM
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No, it's not a radius arm... Research your years and axles of broncos,
I never said what year of bronco I got them from.
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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 01:55 PM
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that's why I said if so stay away.

if your talking about using the CAD to engage 4wd then no the new axle wont work that way. but will when you engage the hubs and t-case

for a quicker way to mount up the axle TNT offroad has a truss that will work. weld it up then bolt the axle in
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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 01:56 PM
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What exactly would be wrong with leaving the front hubs engaged? I just searched it on this forum and other forum and there's a lot of people that say they do it without any issue.
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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 02:10 PM
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it beats up u-joints and kills fuel economy as well..also with lockout hubs you can run a locker up front with less side affects
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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by suzuki squid
What exactly would be wrong with leaving the front hubs engaged? I just searched it on this forum and other forum and there's a lot of people that say they do it without any issue.
What difference does it make if the transfercase is turning the front driveshaft? They only reason the frint driveshaft turns in 2 wheel drive in all Jeeps is because the hubs are locked in, or it has no option to unlock them. The front driveshaft is only being turned by the transfercase when you are in 4 wheel drive. So you do not need to swap out the t-case.

Also, most people love the ability to lock the hubs out to eliminate the drag on forward power from having to turn the gears, driveshaft, etc when they are not being used. But if you want to leave them in, to each their own. That will still work as long as you do a good setup on the front end so you get no driveline vibes at high speeds.

In closing...if you can get the axle under there so that there are no driveshaft vibes and you leave the hubs locked in, you will have what you are asking for.
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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Irongrave
what year XJ? also is it a radius arm dana 44. if so I'd stay away from it as the tubes are no stronger then the dana 30 that you have now.
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No, it's not a radius arm... Research your years and axles of broncos,
I never said what year of bronco I got them from.

Yeah, Irongrave, you should be ashamed of yourself, trying to help him out like that.
But what good would it have done Irongrave to research his Broncos if you never said what year it was? Doesn't the fact that he knows some of them are radius arm and not very compatible to the swap imply that he already does know something about them and was just trying to save you some trouble? The way you phrased the original question did not scream "D44 swap expert," if you know what I mean.
Moral - chill out, and try not to insult people's intelligence until you are SURE they are full of crap
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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 04:31 PM
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I thought the front driveshaft is always spinning in our xjs?
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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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Sry I have everything ready to go, and just need help with what I asked, I have everything else situated. Apologies
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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 04:39 PM
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The front drive shaft IS spinning, BUT not under any power from the transfer case. The reason it is spinning is because the front tires are spinning. We dont have selectable hubs, if you were to add a selectable hub kit, then you could and the spinning would stop.

What everyone is trying to say is that if you changed the axle and UNLOCKED the hubs the tires would freespin without turning the inner axles, which in turn would not turn the front drive shaft. Theyre tryin to save ya money man...

In so many words driving with the hubs locked in would be exactly the same as your current axle. Unlocking them makes your motor work less while driving down the road in 2wd
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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 04:45 PM
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the front drive shaft only turns allthe time on xjs that do not have the vacuum actuator on the front axle
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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 04:48 PM
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ok new idea..we should have to check a box next to every post before we can post a reply...just to stop the pete and repeat show
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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 11:20 PM
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So what year Bronco did you get these out of that doesn't have radius arms cause both my 68 and 79 both had radius arms. If you found one with front leaves it was converted. BTW the 78 and 79 with cast wedges are the only weak ones.
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