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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 06:58 PM
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I just got back from the muffler shop cuz I had been hearing a rattle coming from the engine area when I start her up cold. if she's already warm no rattle. I suspected it could be the exhaust manifold. I just replaced my muffler and cat. well the guy told me (a friend of mine) that it was the manifold and that there probably was a crack somewhere. question: how long should I wait before replacing? another: how much do you think it would cost me to replace by a mechanic? thanks.
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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I just got back from the muffler shop cuz I had been hearing a rattle coming from the engine area when I start her up cold. if she's already warm no rattle. I suspected it could be the exhaust manifold. I just replaced my muffler and cat. well the guy told me (a friend of mine) that it was the manifold and that there probably was a crack somewhere. question: how long should I wait before replacing? another: how much do you think it would cost me to replace by a mechanic? thanks.
I have a crack in mine also. The muffler guy told me most mechanics will charge at least $200 just to get to it to take it off. and then they can weld it or you can put a new one on. I didn't have the money so i haven't done it yet and that was over a year ago. hope to do it soon though.
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 07:08 PM
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Before you go thinking "cracked manifold" - check the torque on the screws holding it to the head, especially the lower rear ones.

Due to clamping iron and aluminum together, the screws get worked loose - and the fact that it goes away when it's warm tells me that's what you should check first. I retorque mine annually - I invariably find that one or two is loose (the sound goes away when hot because the manifold flange expands enough to close up the gap again.)
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 07:49 PM
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Before you go thinking "cracked manifold" - check the torque on the screws holding it to the head, especially the lower rear ones.

Due to clamping iron and aluminum together, the screws get worked loose - and the fact that it goes away when it's warm tells me that's what you should check first. I retorque mine annually - I invariably find that one or two is loose (the sound goes away when hot because the manifold flange expands enough to close up the gap again.)
I will definately check that out tomr. thanks for your thoughts.
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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if it is cracked they really arent that hard to replace just a little time consuming since you have to remove the intake to get it off
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I will definately check that out tomr. thanks for your thoughts.
Just passing along what I've learned from experience...

Forgot - check the stud nuts at the header collector (where the downpipe joins up) as well. They can work loose over time, and present as a manifold crack.
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 07:59 AM
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it more than likely split at the collector like all the rest...replace with a new one...if you provide the header i wouldnt pay more than 2-300 for it to be put on.
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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Just passing along what I've learned from experience...

Forgot - check the stud nuts at the header collector (where the downpipe joins up) as well. They can work loose over time, and present as a manifold crack.
I checked all the bolts and stud nuts and everything looks great. I think I will look into a cracked manifest a little more.
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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I checked all the bolts and stud nuts and everything looks great. I think I will look into a cracked manifest a little more.
No worries. It's just one of those things - if it's a loose screw or two, you've fixed it. If it isn't, you're just out the half-hour you spent checking.

If you replace the manifold, you'll end up fixing the problem either way - but if all it was happened to be loose screws, you've spent a couple hundred bucks that you really didn't need to. Just trying to help you avoid that...
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 07:39 PM
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No worries. It's just one of those things - if it's a loose screw or two, you've fixed it. If it isn't, you're just out the half-hour you spent checking.

If you replace the manifold, you'll end up fixing the problem either way - but if all it was happened to be loose screws, you've spent a couple hundred bucks that you really didn't need to. Just trying to help you avoid that...
I appreciate it. It's always nice to save a buck when you can.
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 10:22 PM
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I have a cracked exhaust manifold as well and am actually in the process of getting a used one from the junkyard for $22. Its going to be a pain in the butt to replace it but its alot better than spending hundreds of dollars to have somebody replace it for me
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 11:37 PM
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ive had two crack where the two pipes conect it's pretty easy to take of and weld imo i wished you lived arournd me i would only charge $75 to take it off and weld it up save you money and make me some
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 11:54 PM
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on ebay there is someone that sell them with some flex hose welded into it. it prevents the cracking from happening again. i got mine shipped to my house with a new gasket. me and buddy put it in in about 3-4 hours but we took the intake manifold off as well and cleaned it up.

ill try and find ya a linky

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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 12:03 AM
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here ya go bud cheaper than i payed!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/95-96...A1%7C72%3A1171
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 04:46 AM
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the other day I crawled underneith the jeep after I started her up cold. the rattle underneith was loud so I figured it would be easy to locate the problem. I noticed where the exhaust manifold pipe and the muffler meet just at the first hanger for the exhaust system it was hitting or rattling. so i took it back up to the muffler guy and he fixed it for nothing. considering they were the ones that installed a little sloppy the first time around. problem fixed and no cash out of my wallet.
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