Engine Knock at Idle
03-07-2014, 04:42 AM
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Long story Bubba. Sheriffs will lie to you, and will purger themselves under oath. Sad to see a new Deputy do it, obviously coached by his Sargent on how to lie, but not that good...., yet. I went 300 miles and moved a cab-over camper out of the yard I've been using since 1975. Anyway, that sounds sweet! Nice job.
Tact, do I hear a hiss, like a vacuum leak?
Tact, do I hear a hiss, like a vacuum leak?
03-07-2014, 08:52 AM
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03-07-2014, 08:54 AM
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when I changed out the exhaust manifold I installed one with the accordion joints on it. Haven't noticed any cracks so far!
03-07-2014, 08:55 AM
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I put "Cherokee knock" into U-Tube search and found ME, (11 down)>> 4.0 Cherokee Jeep engine knock..... rod - YouTube
Not identical, but similar to yours. It's been doing that for well over 10 years. It's part of the reason the previous owner sold it to me in 02. Please use a Wix filter. or napa Gold, (same thing). Not Fram, the "Orange Can Of Death"
Not identical, but similar to yours. It's been doing that for well over 10 years. It's part of the reason the previous owner sold it to me in 02. Please use a Wix filter. or napa Gold, (same thing). Not Fram, the "Orange Can Of Death"
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Long story Bubba. Sheriffs will lie to you, and will purger themselves under oath. Sad to see a new Deputy do it, obviously coached by his Sargent on how to lie, but not that good...., yet. I went 300 miles and moved a cab-over camper out of the yard I've been using since 1975. Anyway, that sounds sweet! Nice job.
Tact, do I hear a hiss, like a vacuum leak?
Tact, do I hear a hiss, like a vacuum leak?
03-07-2014, 08:59 AM
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I just want to say thank you to all that have replied to this. It's great to have people I don't even know helping out with something that isn't a major issue. I've learned so much off of this forum and is what actually got me interested into taking care of and modding my xj. Couldn't have gotten this far, and trust me I will be taking her farther, without you guys. THANKS!
03-07-2014, 09:26 AM
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I put Rotella T6 5w40 full synthetic in mine and it quieted down my 4.0 a lot. Slight little knock/lifter tap as others have mentioned comes natural with the 4.0 Runs fantastic.
03-07-2014, 12:40 PM
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Long story Bubba. Sheriffs will lie to you, and will purger themselves under oath. Sad to see a new Deputy do it, obviously coached by his Sargent on how to lie, but not that good...., yet. I went 300 miles and moved a cab-over camper out of the yard I've been using since 1975. Anyway, that sounds sweet! Nice job.
Tact, do I hear a hiss, like a vacuum leak?
Tact, do I hear a hiss, like a vacuum leak?
03-07-2014, 12:55 PM
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I recently switched to T6 and run a Mopar filter.
I have that same sound that DFlintstone posted, but also I have some valve train noise as well that sounds like the rocker might need to be retorqued. It sounds like a muffled diesel a bit. Nothing to terribly loud, but I would like to quiet it down a bit. Haven't had a 4.0 as loud as this one.
03-07-2014, 10:17 PM
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I'm really at a loss. I thought rod at first, but no way could a rod hammer like that for nearly 150K (Had 140, 278K now). Crank end play maybe? RRR. Just a bad lifter? but only one out of 12 for so long? It was extra loud that morn, had just parked at full temp, than came out 1/2 hr later, was below freezing. Some things cooled, and some didn't. Anyway, I've heard plenty of others with the same knock. My issue is the 4.0 connected to the AW4 is tearing all the metal connected to it to bits! On uneven ground my hatch can come down on a tail-light. (cracks out board of the hatch hinges).There are also cracks top-rear of the passenger door frame. 
Yea Bubba...I never, ever did anything to harm or bother anyone. Born and raised here, not going anywhere. It's not a "Justice System", it's a framework of laws, more and more BOUGHT by those with financial gain as motive.
Yea Bubba...I never, ever did anything to harm or bother anyone. Born and raised here, not going anywhere. It's not a "Justice System", it's a framework of laws, more and more BOUGHT by those with financial gain as motive.
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Repeat business for them. What happened to me. Fines paid off. Lets go get him again. He pays his bills.... Even got one for my dog not being on a leash in My own fenced in yard.
03-08-2014, 01:00 PM
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Rotella is a diesel engine oil correct? I thought that was bad for gasoline engines? and why full synthetic? Anyone else have any comments on this?
03-08-2014, 04:24 PM
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Like the other guys said, it sounds like any other 4.0 I've ever heard. Mine has made those same noises since I drove it off the lot 20 years ago. 4.0 are not quiet engines, they have kind of a knocking noise at idle that I've heard in every XJ I've ever heard. Is this your first 4.0 ? The next time you pull up to a light next to a similar jeep, roll down your windows and see what I mean. That's just the way they are.
03-09-2014, 03:20 PM
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Like the other guys said, it sounds like any other 4.0 I've ever heard. Mine has made those same noises since I drove it off the lot 20 years ago. 4.0 are not quiet engines, they have kind of a knocking noise at idle that I've heard in every XJ I've ever heard. Is this your first 4.0 ? The next time you pull up to a light next to a similar jeep, roll down your windows and see what I mean. That's just the way they are.
03-09-2014, 04:08 PM
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I'm really at a loss. I thought rod at first, but no way could a rod hammer like that for nearly 150K (Had 140, 278K now). Crank end play maybe? RRR. Just a bad lifter? but only one out of 12 for so long? It was extra loud that morn, had just parked at full temp, than came out 1/2 hr later, was below freezing. Some things cooled, and some didn't. Anyway, I've heard plenty of others with the same knock. My issue is the 4.0 connected to the AW4 is tearing all the metal connected to it to bits! On uneven ground my hatch can come down on a tail-light. (cracks out board of the hatch hinges).There are also cracks top-rear of the passenger door frame.
Yea Bubba...I never, ever did anything to harm or bother anyone. Born and raised here, not going anywhere. It's not a "Justice System", it's a framework of laws, more and more BOUGHT by those with financial gain as motive.
Yea Bubba...I never, ever did anything to harm or bother anyone. Born and raised here, not going anywhere. It's not a "Justice System", it's a framework of laws, more and more BOUGHT by those with financial gain as motive.
