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Old Apr 21, 2017 | 12:38 PM
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I mentioned this in another post, but wanted to specifically see if anyone has ideas.

My buddy had his hands on the AC lines when the driver door was shut and felt an electric shock go into his hands (he's mechanical, not inclined to imagine such things).

What could I check to try to run this down? Any leads at all?

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Old Apr 21, 2017 | 02:01 PM
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Old Apr 21, 2017 | 03:22 PM
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Weird electrical things are almost always caused by bad grounds. Check engine to chassis. If the ground wire is bad, it might be using the AC lines to connect the engine and chassis.
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Old Apr 21, 2017 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Tobey
Weird electrical things are almost always caused by bad grounds. Check engine to chassis. If the ground wire is bad, it might be using the AC lines to connect the engine and chassis.

Bingo. Start with the grounds.
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*sigh*

Grounds go bad.
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Originally Posted by BlueRidgeMark
Bingo. Start with the grounds.
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Old Apr 21, 2017 | 11:27 PM
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Look for any open wires that may be touching the lines, or nearby. What happens if you disconnect the a/c connector? Is the shock still there?
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compressor is grounded, it is bolted solidly to the engine like he starter,alternator. these things cannot loose ground. ground is not a mystery.

As I've said before, it's clear from your posts that you really do not understand electricity.

You also don't seem to know aluminum tubing from rubber hose.
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Originally Posted by BlueRidgeMark
As I've said before, it's clear from your posts that you really do not understand electricity.

You also don't seem to know aluminum tubing from rubber hose.
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trust me ive been working with radios tvs and computer circuits since i was a kid. spent my life in electronics so i know this very well
No you don't know it "very well". You've posted absolute nonsense on many threads on things electrical. You've got a few smidgens of facts, with no understanding of theory at all. You know just enough to be dangerous.

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years ago i made $2500 building a computer machine control interfacing a cbm 64 to stepper motors to move material thru a machine. i build 1000 watt ham radio amplifiers and power supplies as a hobby. p supplies are 12 v 30 amp. amps have 3300 v power supplies. gotta be careful messing with them.
i live with electricity, trust me.l
In addition to posting ignorant nonsense, the last time I challenged your garbage on the subject you told a very different story about your electrical knowledge and background. Odd - it has grown quite a bit since last time. Funny how that often works that way with Internet experts.

You really should just shut up
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Old Apr 22, 2017 | 11:18 AM
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Hey Guys ... is there a way to use the multimeter to test that idea of a charge going into the AC system, instead of grounding correctly?

This is probably obvious... do I check for voltage from the AC lines to the battery ground?
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Old Apr 22, 2017 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mtyson
Hey Guys ... is there a way to use the multimeter to test that idea of a charge going into the AC system, instead of grounding correctly?

This is probably obvious... do I check for voltage from the AC lines to the battery ground?

Yes.


Set the multimeter to read 20 volts DC. Touch the Aluminum Liquid Line with the meter positive probe and the negative probe to the battery negative post.


The Liquid Line goes from the opening in the fire wall to the Evaporator, to the Condenser in front of the radiator - no hose in between. The Condenser is grounded to the chassis through the radiator support.


Consider disassembling the ground at G100 (right inner fender) and removing all rust/corrosion from the inner fender, the wire ring terminal, and the bolt/screw, then reassemble securely.


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Old Apr 22, 2017 | 04:10 PM
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I'm laughing at how nujeepguy keeps deleting his posts when it's shown he's just plain wrong.
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