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Old 03-14-2010, 05:02 PM
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I have a '99 Jeep Cherokee, 4.0 I6, with AW4 trans. It is showing 135K. When I am driving it at steady speed it goes to back-firing and bucking pretty bad, and seems to get worse the longer I drive it. As I am driving the tach seems to jump around (not a whole lot) within 400-800 rpms. I can floor it and it will clear up and take off, I can also let off and it will run better. I was thinking TPS at first, but I am not sure. The CEL is on and I am planning on bringing my scanner home from work tomorrow. I have scanned it before and it had a rear o2 code in it. (Wires are cut and broken at the sensor) I really dont feel like the o2 would cause this. I am thinking something along the lines of CKP or CMP. What do you guys thinK? I just dont want to go throwing parts at it. (Not alot of money around here nowadays!) But anyways any ideas would be great. Oh yea I did do a tune up. Plugs (champion) Wires, cap and rotor. And it runs fine when cold and seems to act worse as it is driven.
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You can check the codes without a scanner. Here's how. >-> Jeep Horizons :: View topic - Jeep Computer codes (OBDI & OBDII)
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Thanks for link, I tried it but it didnt give me a code number. All the gauges moved around and it counted from 0-9 in the odometer screen. like 000000 111111 222222 and so on to 999999. Then showed the milage of the jeep. Again though thanks for link, maybe I am not doing something right. I for sure am bringing the scanner home tomorrow.

Another question, do you think the CMP or the CKP could be bad and not throw a code?
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Originally Posted by bcumbie
Thanks for link, I tried it but it didnt give me a code number. All the gauges moved around and it counted from 0-9 in the odometer screen. like 000000 111111 222222 and so on to 999999. Then showed the milage of the jeep. Again though thanks for link, maybe I am not doing something right. I for sure am bringing the scanner home tomorrow.

Another question, do you think the CMP or the CKP could be bad and not throw a code?
Yeah the connector might be causing an issue. It sometimes needs to be unplugged and checked/cleaned and maybe some dielectric grease applied.
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Ok thanks I will try that too, I am about to go do a ohm test on it. Oh and BTW I use to drag race 4cyl fwds (hondas) and always loved watching them OMNIs kick ***!!
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Originally Posted by bcumbie
Thanks for link, I tried it but it didnt give me a code number. All the gauges moved around and it counted from 0-9 in the odometer screen. like 000000 111111 222222 and so on to 999999. Then showed the milage of the jeep. Again though thanks for link, maybe I am not doing something right. I for sure am bringing the scanner home tomorrow.

Another question, do you think the CMP or the CKP could be bad and not throw a code?
I tried it to but then I tried the OBDI method and I got a code on the digi and the CEL blinked.. I just turned it to on (but don't start), and then click off and then on twice.. don't go too far back, it is a very close click.. on.off.on.off.on (or mayve it was 4 times, I forget now) then you will get your codes.. kind of weird since we have OBDII but I still got a OBDI code 21
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I'll try that. I just ohmed it and it read 8.9 between B and C and 9.2 between A and B. I believe that means the sensor is faulty? It does run though.
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Ok thanks I will try that too, I am about to go do a ohm test on it. Oh and BTW I use to drag race 4cyl fwds (hondas) and always loved watching them OMNIs kick ***!!
Yeah if you can get them to hook without breaking you're in for a wild ride!
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Yea I ran a N/A honda with slicks best E.T. 12.2 but without the slicks it would slip and slide for a while..hahahahahaha...
Anyways what do you think about my ohm results? Thats ohming the sensor unplugged from the harness.
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Yea I ran a N/A honda with slicks best E.T. 12.2 but without the slicks it would slip and slide for a while..hahahahahaha...
Anyways what do you think about my ohm results? Thats ohming the sensor unplugged from the harness.
I'm at a loss in the electrical dept. Maybe someone smarter than me can chime in here with some help on that. Sorry.
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That's pretty good times for that Honda. What engine were you running in what body?
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LS/Vtec with roughly 12.5-12.8-1 compression, Cams, Edelbrock Victor X, RAGE tri-Y,tuned on hondata s200 and some other goodies. In a 92 Civic hatchback, stripped out but still "Streetable". It just got way too expensive and not really a "family" thing. Also the K-series engine was getting really big and I couldnt afford to step-up to one of those. I have and proably will always be a N/A guy at heart. Had a few turbo civics but always went back to N/A.
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LS/Vtec with roughly 12.5-12.8-1 compression, Cams, Edelbrock Victor X, RAGE tri-Y,tuned on hondata s200 and some other goodies. In a 92 Civic hatchback, stripped out but still "Streetable". It just got way too expensive and not really a "family" thing. Also the K-series engine was getting really big and I couldnt afford to step-up to one of those. I have and proably will always be a N/A guy at heart. Had a few turbo civics but always went back to N/A.
That comp ratio makes the big difference.
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Yea I am pretty sure it was around 12.5-1. I ran flat top valves, and a single layer headgasket with aftermarket pistons.
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anybody got any opinions on my ohm findings?


" I just ohmed it and it read 8.9 between B and C and 9.2 between A and B. I believe that means the sensor is faulty? It does run though"
I just ohmed it and it read 8.9 between B and C and 9.2 between A and B. I believe that means the sensor is faulty? It does run though. Today 06:24 PM


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