D35 or D44
to the guy who was talking bout putting 30 splines in a dana 35.
DUDE. that's over 1000 dollars to put the new shafts, new bearings, new carrier or spiders in and have the gears set if you swap gears.
for $250 or less you can have a MUCH better axle and even upgrade to discs.
why would you then spend the money going to a "super" 35?
DUDE. that's over 1000 dollars to put the new shafts, new bearings, new carrier or spiders in and have the gears set if you swap gears.
for $250 or less you can have a MUCH better axle and even upgrade to discs.
why would you then spend the money going to a "super" 35?
to the guy who was talking bout putting 30 splines in a dana 35.
DUDE. that's over 1000 dollars to put the new shafts, new bearings, new carrier or spiders in and have the gears set if you swap gears.
for $250 or less you can have a MUCH better axle and even upgrade to discs.
why would you then spend the money going to a "super" 35?
DUDE. that's over 1000 dollars to put the new shafts, new bearings, new carrier or spiders in and have the gears set if you swap gears.
for $250 or less you can have a MUCH better axle and even upgrade to discs.
why would you then spend the money going to a "super" 35?

Secondly, I have a friend with a D35 and super 35 kit, Detroit locker, on 33" tires, and his has never broke either. He is liberal with the skinny pedal to say the least. Where I like to finesse my rig, he blasts it. Are there better axles out there, absolutly, can you wheel on a D35, yes you can. I'd say find a different axle when you can and build it how you want it, until then, wheel what you have!!
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Firstly, He said this was done by the PO. DUDE!!
Secondly, I have a friend with a D35 and super 35 kit, Detroit locker, on 33" tires, and his has never broke either. He is liberal with the skinny pedal to say the least. Where I like to finesse my rig, he blasts it. Are there better axles out there, absolutly, can you wheel on a D35, yes you can. I'd say find a different axle when you can and build it how you want it, until then, wheel what you have!!

Secondly, I have a friend with a D35 and super 35 kit, Detroit locker, on 33" tires, and his has never broke either. He is liberal with the skinny pedal to say the least. Where I like to finesse my rig, he blasts it. Are there better axles out there, absolutly, can you wheel on a D35, yes you can. I'd say find a different axle when you can and build it how you want it, until then, wheel what you have!!
Firstly, He said this was done by the PO. DUDE!!
Secondly, I have a friend with a D35 and super 35 kit, Detroit locker, on 33" tires, and his has never broke either. He is liberal with the skinny pedal to say the least. Where I like to finesse my rig, he blasts it. Are there better axles out there, absolutly, can you wheel on a D35, yes you can. I'd say find a different axle when you can and build it how you want it, until then, wheel what you have!!

Secondly, I have a friend with a D35 and super 35 kit, Detroit locker, on 33" tires, and his has never broke either. He is liberal with the skinny pedal to say the least. Where I like to finesse my rig, he blasts it. Are there better axles out there, absolutly, can you wheel on a D35, yes you can. I'd say find a different axle when you can and build it how you want it, until then, wheel what you have!!
hey dude, read page 3 where richxj89said that with 30 spline shafts etc. it's a stout axle.
then re-read my statement.
then pull your head outta ur **** (j/k) and add up numbers.
the dana 35 is a WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY inferior axle to anything else, and not worth investing any money into other than an oil change and a millermatic locker.
it has a smaller, thinner ring and pinion gear, a smaller, thinner carrier, and smaller diameter, thinner axle tubes. this is all inferior, and not worth additional expenditures. sure, you can make them "decent"....but then you still have a dana 35, and you're still more prone to blowing gears than anyone with even a 27 spline 8.25.
I've blown 35's every which way. spun diff on axle tubes, blown ring and pinion gears shooting teeth out of diff cover, blown spiders, broken shafts, sheared pinion, and even got to "work on" (remove and **** can) one with a sheared carrier.
they are inferior. some guys get lucky. most don't. so don't EVER try and tell me (or anyone else) that it is wise to drop a grand, much less any time into trussing, a dana 35...because anyone who does say that, is wrong.
hey dude, read page 3 where richxj89said that with 30 spline shafts etc. it's a stout axle.
then re-read my statement.
then pull your head outta ur **** (j/k) and add up numbers.
the dana 35 is a WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY inferior axle to anything else, and not worth investing any money into other than an oil change and a millermatic locker.
it has a smaller, thinner ring and pinion gear, a smaller, thinner carrier, and smaller diameter, thinner axle tubes. this is all inferior, and not worth additional expenditures. sure, you can make them "decent"....but then you still have a dana 35, and you're still more prone to blowing gears than anyone with even a 27 spline 8.25.
I've blown 35's every which way. spun diff on axle tubes, blown ring and pinion gears shooting teeth out of diff cover, blown spiders, broken shafts, sheared pinion, and even got to "work on" (remove and **** can) one with a sheared carrier.
they are inferior. some guys get lucky. most don't. so don't EVER try and tell me (or anyone else) that it is wise to drop a grand, much less any time into trussing, a dana 35...because anyone who does say that, is wrong.
then re-read my statement.
then pull your head outta ur **** (j/k) and add up numbers.
the dana 35 is a WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY inferior axle to anything else, and not worth investing any money into other than an oil change and a millermatic locker.
it has a smaller, thinner ring and pinion gear, a smaller, thinner carrier, and smaller diameter, thinner axle tubes. this is all inferior, and not worth additional expenditures. sure, you can make them "decent"....but then you still have a dana 35, and you're still more prone to blowing gears than anyone with even a 27 spline 8.25.
I've blown 35's every which way. spun diff on axle tubes, blown ring and pinion gears shooting teeth out of diff cover, blown spiders, broken shafts, sheared pinion, and even got to "work on" (remove and **** can) one with a sheared carrier.
they are inferior. some guys get lucky. most don't. so don't EVER try and tell me (or anyone else) that it is wise to drop a grand, much less any time into trussing, a dana 35...because anyone who does say that, is wrong.

I needed that!!
*sigh*.
I did not say that it was the OP who posted that. I was arguing with richxj89. yes, he did suggest spending money based on the simple fact that he suggested 30 spline axleshafts. those are $400 alone. and not worth the investment into a dana 35.
so, you are still mis-interpreting what I posted, and you are still not correct about what another reader (NOT the OP) should do if they have a dana 35.
to the rest of you viewing. maybe I'm seeming like a dick, but my posts were not interpreted correctly and I am trying to correc that misinterpretation.
bottom line; if you have a stock dana 35 DO NOT invest money in it. maybe weld the spider gears, then beat it til it breaks. but make provisions for replacement, because it WILL break. if you wheel hard on it, you know this. many of you have already had these experiences...i know for fact that I can never drive anything with a dana 35, even on the street, because I will break it sooner than later.
that's because I USE my vehicle as it was intended...to beat the **** out of it and then upgrade so it can come back begging for more. if that's not your mentality, then don't wheel because every scratch, dent, and scuff is gonna make you go home crying.
I did not say that it was the OP who posted that. I was arguing with richxj89. yes, he did suggest spending money based on the simple fact that he suggested 30 spline axleshafts. those are $400 alone. and not worth the investment into a dana 35.
so, you are still mis-interpreting what I posted, and you are still not correct about what another reader (NOT the OP) should do if they have a dana 35.
to the rest of you viewing. maybe I'm seeming like a dick, but my posts were not interpreted correctly and I am trying to correc that misinterpretation.
bottom line; if you have a stock dana 35 DO NOT invest money in it. maybe weld the spider gears, then beat it til it breaks. but make provisions for replacement, because it WILL break. if you wheel hard on it, you know this. many of you have already had these experiences...i know for fact that I can never drive anything with a dana 35, even on the street, because I will break it sooner than later.
that's because I USE my vehicle as it was intended...to beat the **** out of it and then upgrade so it can come back begging for more. if that's not your mentality, then don't wheel because every scratch, dent, and scuff is gonna make you go home crying.
funny you should say it that way.
when I launched all the teeth from the ring and pinion, I was travelling down the interstate doing the speed limit. this was an open, 3.55 gears.
they will break. you won't know when until it happens. end of story.
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*sigh*.
I did not say that it was the OP who posted that. I was arguing with richxj89. yes, he did suggest spending money based on the simple fact that he suggested 30 spline axleshafts. those are $400 alone. and not worth the investment into a dana 35.
so, you are still mis-interpreting what I posted, and you are still not correct about what another reader (NOT the OP) should do if they have a dana 35.
to the rest of you viewing. maybe I'm seeming like a dick, but my posts were not interpreted correctly and I am trying to correc that misinterpretation.
bottom line; if you have a stock dana 35 DO NOT invest money in it. maybe weld the spider gears, then beat it til it breaks. but make provisions for replacement, because it WILL break. if you wheel hard on it, you know this. many of you have already had these experiences...i know for fact that I can never drive anything with a dana 35, even on the street, because I will break it sooner than later.
that's because I USE my vehicle as it was intended...to beat the **** out of it and then upgrade so it can come back begging for more. if that's not your mentality, then don't wheel because every scratch, dent, and scuff is gonna make you go home crying.
I did not say that it was the OP who posted that. I was arguing with richxj89. yes, he did suggest spending money based on the simple fact that he suggested 30 spline axleshafts. those are $400 alone. and not worth the investment into a dana 35.
so, you are still mis-interpreting what I posted, and you are still not correct about what another reader (NOT the OP) should do if they have a dana 35.
to the rest of you viewing. maybe I'm seeming like a dick, but my posts were not interpreted correctly and I am trying to correc that misinterpretation.
bottom line; if you have a stock dana 35 DO NOT invest money in it. maybe weld the spider gears, then beat it til it breaks. but make provisions for replacement, because it WILL break. if you wheel hard on it, you know this. many of you have already had these experiences...i know for fact that I can never drive anything with a dana 35, even on the street, because I will break it sooner than later.
that's because I USE my vehicle as it was intended...to beat the **** out of it and then upgrade so it can come back begging for more. if that's not your mentality, then don't wheel because every scratch, dent, and scuff is gonna make you go home crying.
and for other people reading this. i agree with jeepcomj. putting any money into an xj d35 is just plain ignorant and stupid. in the case of the op, the deed has already been done. yes the money could have been spent better but now that its spent, just run it.
now for some tj guys a super 35 makes sense. the tj doesnt have a plentiful axle to upgrade to like the 8.25 in the xj. some have d44's but they are hard to find. the super 35 kit is good for guys that dont have the fab skill or the shops around them to do the custom work involved with setting up bracketry on a 8.8 or better axle.
Last edited by richxj89; May 11, 2009 at 06:28 PM.
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By no means do I wish to keep the arguing going but I feel that there is one other thing to mention when it comes to axle selection: housing strength. By putting a super 35 kit in a d35, you address the weak axles but the housing remains really quite flimsy. I'm guessing this is why a truss was recommended for the OP in a previous post as he already has strong shafts so a truss (assuming he can weld/fabricate himself) might be something to consider (depending on cost of course). As far as I know, the 8.25 housing is almost as strong as a d44 (which is another reason why it is a recommended upgrade from the d35 regardless of spline count) and the ford 8.8 is actually a bit stronger as long as you weld the axle tubes all the way around where they meet the center section.
The weak housing, along with everything else mentioned in previous posts, is why it really doesn't make sense to put any money into the d35. I cringed when I had to do the brakes on mine haha.
The weak housing, along with everything else mentioned in previous posts, is why it really doesn't make sense to put any money into the d35. I cringed when I had to do the brakes on mine haha.




