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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 07:46 PM
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Ok, so I started wiring my BAJA Navigator fog lights today and started to connect the ground from the lights. Problem.. I dont have enough wire coming from the lights to connect to the chassis, or even the brush gaurd at that! So basically, I am not electrically savy, and I dont know how to extend the wire. I dont want to tap holes in the brush gaurd, but if I absolutely have to then I guess I can. Thanks in advance for any help.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 08:17 PM
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simple fix, just need to crimp the wires together.


look in the 3rd from the right bin, theres the little blue and red tube looking things, you will need those to extend a wire.



then just strip the end of the wire added and run it to the battery or a chassis ground.

may i suggest you ask a friend who is electrical savvy to help you out a bit, not making fun of you either, just have him teach you a few things so you dont fry your lights or something else
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 08:22 PM
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THANK YOU!! I would have never known those existed until you told me. I was think splicing, or electric tape. Thank you. And dont worry, I would not get mad if you made fun.. You shoulda seen me when I was taking the battery cables off; haynes manual in one hand, a wrench in the other and me with this lost expression. I have a friend coming over tomorrow to check my work. Maybe I completed a crash course in simple electricity lol. Thanks again!
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 08:30 PM
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haha no problem. one thing that is nice to learn is electrical when working on these damn things. If you can, buy some heatshrink tubing or just wrap it in electrical tape once its crimped, obviously putting the heatshrink tubing on before (if you go with it) so you can put it around the crimped area and heat it up so no water gets to it
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 10:59 PM
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I'm kind scared to think of how you may have terminated the wires to your new lights.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 11:16 PM
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Me or him? I have all of my lights on relays with the negatives going straight to the battery instead of a chassis ground. Any wire i had to add to mine was soldered then double wrapped with heat shrink. Nothing wrong or sketchy here
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 11:24 PM
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If you're going to be using crimps on the exterior, I highly recommend the shrink wrap , as suggested, but fill it with dielectric grease before shrinking... Also, for exterior use I prefer the sheathed spades. Then fill the female up with grease before connecting. Will greatly reduce corrosion... However, (even though I don't always) solder is a better connection... even then, grease and shrink wrap.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 11:25 PM
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wait, you routed the ground wire back to the negative battery terminal? Whats the diff between a chassis ground and the neg terminal then?
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 11:49 PM
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you can use either, they bout do the same thing, if you look at the negative wire connected to the battery, you will see if goes to the chassis. I just chose to go straight to the battery for a "cleaner" ground i guess you could say. it wont make a difference for a few lights really, just IMO easier to keep track of the wires once you start adding more electronics.

also picked these things up, work great






dont mind the random color wires going to each terminal lol
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 1991Jeep_Man
Ok, so I started wiring my BAJA Navigator fog lights today and started to connect the ground from the lights. Problem.. I dont have enough wire coming from the lights to connect to the chassis, or even the brush gaurd at that! So basically, I am not electrically savy, and I dont know how to extend the wire. I dont want to tap holes in the brush gaurd, but if I absolutely have to then I guess I can. Thanks in advance for any help.
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 08:55 AM
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Don't get discouraged and keep on learning. Wiring is pretty basic you should catch on soon. After a few mistakes of course
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by AIbandit
Don't get discouraged and keep on learning. Wiring is pretty basic you should catch on soon. After a few mistakes of course
great first post

1991Jeep_Man, just remember to disconnect your negative wire on your battery when doing anything electrical as a precaution
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 01:22 PM
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well, I had planned on disconnecting the negative terminal anyway since the haynes manual said its a good precaution.. as for the ground I have a wire running from the negative terminal to the side of the engine bay.. its just a wire that runs and is bolted down, like a ground. Can I just route both light grounds to this bolt?
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 1991Jeep_Man
well, I had planned on disconnecting the negative terminal anyway since the haynes manual said its a good precaution.. as for the ground I have a wire running from the negative terminal to the side of the engine bay.. its just a wire that runs and is bolted down, like a ground. Can I just route both light grounds to this bolt?
Yes, you can you use that bolt, but don't think you're limited to factory connections. The body and block are both grounded(The body by the bolt you mentioned, the block by the large negative cable from the battery. There should also be ground straps from the block to the body), and you can ground any accessory to any point on the body or block. Just make sure you ALWAYS have clean bare metal to clean bare metal. I however, prefer to take things back to the battery (I just replaced the battery terminals and put on a set of the spade connectors like Emaxx posted. I really like them so far.) Makes for far fewer bad ground issues. Most automotive electrical problems can be traced back to a bad ground. To avoid this, and keep from messing up my fresh paint. I ran a ground wire on the front side of the firewall in my '67 Plymouth. I then bolted all the grounds on each side of the firewall through to the ground wire. That way everything is tied back to the battery, and I don't have to worry so much about bad ground connections.
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 06:13 PM
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Emaxx620,what is the connector called on the battery terminal?It looks clean and I believe it is much more easier for connection/disconnection.First time I come across...he he.Thank you.
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