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Old Dec 30, 2015 | 02:12 PM
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I know this was in June, But Kelley will respond. This summer he had allot of things going on. I waited 45 days for my cables, but they were very good quality and better built than OTC at autozone stuff.
I bought a second set this past summer after I gifted my 5yo set of 5-90 cables to my bro. Agree he had a lot going on this past summer, but always responded with more info than I asked, super helpful. I completely overhauled all my electrical and ordered some custom cables for my accessory box as well as all the mains and winch cables. He does an excellent job.

I had Napa brand "battery" cable for my winch, but after getting 5-90's made in US welding cable I could tell an immediate difference, for the better. I spent a lot of money on these cables, and would do it again over store bought.

Also I notice a lot of you are against those basic crimpers, but if you have a strong grip there's really no small terminal they can't crimp. I use the exact one pictured above that a few of you have said stay away from, and never once had an issue with a crimp. I use 3m terminals, ones where the metal to be crimped has a small angle so when crimped it curls downward, solid crimp every time. I don't doubt the other style of crumpet is better, but having used the "bad" one for 5 years no with no problem, I don't see the need to run out and get a special one.
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Old Dec 30, 2015 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000CHERO

Also I notice a lot of you are against those basic crimpers, but if you have a strong grip there's really no small terminal they can't crimp. I use the exact one pictured above that a few of you have said stay away from, and never once had an issue with a crimp. I use 3m terminals, ones where the metal to be crimped has a small angle so when crimped it curls downward, solid crimp every time. I don't doubt the other style of crumpet is better, but having used the "bad" one for 5 years no with no problem, I don't see the need to run out and get a special one.

Agreed. Its worked for everything I've needed it to as well.
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Old Dec 30, 2015 | 05:57 PM
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He was to slow responding for my immediate issue I had. I used his numbers and had my local Napa fab my set. Very good quality and available immediately.
how much did it cost to get the Napa cables?
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how much did it cost to get the Napa cables?
It was around $80 for five, 4 gauge cables.
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It was around $80 for five, 4 gauge cables.
Does that include the terminal ends and shrink wrap, which should at least have some sort of adhesive inside when it shrinks(which HF has cheap btw)? Or just the cables?

I think 5-90's 4awg mains kit is around $100 isn't it?
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Old Jan 2, 2016 | 09:44 PM
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Does that include the terminal ends and shrink wrap, which should at least have some sort of adhesive inside when it shrinks(which HF has cheap btw)? Or just the cables? I think 5-90's 4awg mains kit is around $100 isn't it?
$130 for his set. I don't know if that's before or after shipping though
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Originally Posted by 2000CHERO
Does that include the terminal ends and shrink wrap, which should at least have some sort of adhesive inside when it shrinks(which HF has cheap btw)? Or just the cables?

I think 5-90's 4awg mains kit is around $100 isn't it?
Thats them building the cables to my specs, end links heat wrapped, brass marine terminals. 5-90's 4awg for the five cables is $60 according to his website, but that doesn't include terminals, shipping and the wait I couldn't afford at the time. Its a comparable price and I would have rather given him the business, but I needed them immediately.
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Thats them building the cables to my specs, end links heat wrapped, brass marine terminals. 5-90's 4awg for the five cables is $60 according to his website, but that doesn't include terminals, shipping and the wait I couldn't afford at the time. Its a comparable price and I would have rather given him the business, but I needed them immediately.
oops read the price below it. What does the kit below include?
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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 02:41 AM
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I believe the more expensive kit has the anl fuse added to the alternator output.
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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by toasterknight
I believe the more expensive kit has the anl fuse added to the alternator output.
Yes. It does.
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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 08:17 AM
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So if the $60 doesn't have ends dies the $130 kit have ends?
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Originally Posted by SatiricalHen
So if the $60 doesn't have ends dies the $130 kit have ends?
All his kits have ends. He doesn't make you crimp your own haha. His $60 kit is just the basic mains: 4awg US welding cable, cut, crimped, heat shrunk.

For $80 you get the same kit but with the 36" cable that goes from alternator to pdc.

For $130 you get all the above plus a fuse holder and 2 ANL fuses.

These prices and lengths are for 4 awg for 97-01 XJ's, you'd have refer to his page to find out pricing for other years.

Also having handled both welding cable and dedicated battery cable, no question that welding cable is easier to route. I relocated my winch solenoid pack to the engine bay, and originally had 4awg Napa battery cable. Was hard to work with, didn't take bends to nicely, and just a pain to route where I wanted it. 5-90's 1awg welding cable however, or really any welding cable, is so much more flexible it's crazy.
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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 09:58 AM
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I've ordered 3 kits from him, with the last one being this past August, so if you have any questions please ask I can help.
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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 12:18 PM
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Could someone school me as to why I should use AWG 4 cables instead of the OEM AWG 6 and AWG 8 cables.


And why use AWG 4 cable from the firewall to the #14 cylinder head bolt instead of the OEM braided strap.
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Because bigger is better! Always! Right?

Right.


Hey, if your cables aren't bigger, what are you going to brag about?


But seriously, factories use cables that are adequate for their job, but not one bit bigger. Another way to say that is barely adequate.

If I need to replace my cables, I'll probably upgrade them a bit. 5-90s cables and ends are better quality than OEM, and will carry more current and last longer than OEM. They are also a sensible upgrade, unlike the idiots that use 00 welding cable.

That nonsense is a pure waste of money.
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