coil spring woes. PICS inside, please help.
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Year: 1985 shell
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Engine: 1996 6 cylinder Briggs & Stratton
Looks to me like the coil spring has walked forward on the COIL SPRING SPACER. Not yelling just pointing out that there should not be a spacer in there with that kit. I could be wrong, but thats what i see
yea he said he installed like a half or 1/4" spacer and to whom was asking about the passenger side the coil sits like every other vehicle i've owned, sorry for taking so long. the passenger side has plenty of space, is not arched, looks perfect. I might be able to snap a pic tomorrow if i remember but it's perfect. I don't think my lca's are too short because going off of that than the passenger side would look just like the drivers. thanks for all the help so far. tomorrow I'm gonna jack it back up and hopefully pull the spring and see whats going on with it.
and thinking about this if anything the driver side would need to come back in order for the coil to sit right, If it was to go forward anymore the coil would probably be like a big slinky going down stairs lol. I may be wrong but thats just what i've been thinking. at first i thought id need adjustable lca's just to pull the driverside back some but like i said it's all straight I had a tape measure under it and all.
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From: Highlands Ranch Co.
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If it's not doing any damage ,or is not making any annoying sounds -I would leave it alone- It's not uncommon for a coil spring to do this with a (probably cheap knock off or homemade) spacer . If it's a growing concern or is causing a problem then remove the spacers. 1/4 to 1/2 inch is not worth sweating over.
it makes a nasty rubbing noise when i flex any bit over level lol. the coil rubs the track bar mount which sucks pretty bad. if just removing that spacer fixes the issue consider them gone lol.
and thinking about this if anything the driver side would need to come back in order for the coil to sit right, If it was to go forward anymore the coil would probably be like a big slinky going down stairs lol. I may be wrong but thats just what i've been thinking. at first i thought id need adjustable lca's just to pull the driverside back some but like i said it's all straight I had a tape measure under it and all.
Everyone else has given good advice- it may be that the axle has shifted back a bit due to the lift but probably not enough to worry about. Certainly not enough to justify new LCA. I just wanted to point out that you want Coil Strut Compressors, not coil spring compressors (I know, makes complete sense in you are compressing coil springs...).
Try and re-seat the springs and make sure the lower end of the spring is seated in the spring perch (groove) - my spring had come out of the groove and had a bit of an arch like yours. Re-seating and putting the coil spring retainer on tight (oops) fixed that problem.
Try and re-seat the springs and make sure the lower end of the spring is seated in the spring perch (groove) - my spring had come out of the groove and had a bit of an arch like yours. Re-seating and putting the coil spring retainer on tight (oops) fixed that problem.
I have a couple guesses.
Axle could be rotated causing the spring to arch forward. Check caster.
Strange coil? I noticed your last wind on the coil is rather large compared to what i'm used to seeing and your spring spacer is bigger too. Here's mine:

Notice the tight wound top coil that hugs the spacer. (and if u look hard enough, i have the same coil arching issue in that picture. It was my axle too far forward and caster way out of whack.)
perhaps the first wind on the coil is a little too large and allows the spring to shift around on the mount. Are those xj's 3" rc coils?
While this damage was done, the coil was in a stressful bend of some sort and it deformed the coil's natural shape.
Coil got knocked out of place by the impact. Just needs pounded back into it's spot with a BFH.
Probably one of the last two.
Which direction was the axle shifted to when the trackbar broke or bent?
Axle could be rotated causing the spring to arch forward. Check caster.
Strange coil? I noticed your last wind on the coil is rather large compared to what i'm used to seeing and your spring spacer is bigger too. Here's mine:

Notice the tight wound top coil that hugs the spacer. (and if u look hard enough, i have the same coil arching issue in that picture. It was my axle too far forward and caster way out of whack.)
perhaps the first wind on the coil is a little too large and allows the spring to shift around on the mount. Are those xj's 3" rc coils?
While this damage was done, the coil was in a stressful bend of some sort and it deformed the coil's natural shape.
Coil got knocked out of place by the impact. Just needs pounded back into it's spot with a BFH.
Probably one of the last two.
Which direction was the axle shifted to when the trackbar broke or bent?
Last edited by muddeprived; Jun 25, 2009 at 10:48 AM.
I just pulled the coil and reseated it and guess what.... Same damn issue lol. This is my first jeep so I'm pretty much stuck going off of what the po told me, he said 3"rc coils and full leafs. I plan on getting it aligned as soon as I can. I'm just going to leave it for now and hopefully figure it out once it's aligned. Also I'm not sure the exact details on what caused the damage other than he was wheeling and caught a big ditch on the passenger side. What do you guys think is the best way to check if a rear is center side to side? I've tried a few ways that I could think of but maybe you guys have a way that might tell me that it's not centered.
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Have you tried to pull the spacers off to see how the springs seat? You may find if you pull them off your problem goes away...
In the original post on the third picture down what is that shiney spot? Is that a rub mark where the paint is missing? Or is it a hole with daylight coming through?
I would compare the unibody again on the passenger side to the drivers side. I was looking at my drivers side and it looks different than your first picture. In your picture it looks like you have a dip or bend in the sheet metal where the spring tower goes into the frame. Also look in the engine compartment on the top rails near the motor mounts. Compare them passenger to drivers side with a good light. Take your time there may be something you missed.
Mike
In the original post on the third picture down what is that shiney spot? Is that a rub mark where the paint is missing? Or is it a hole with daylight coming through?
I would compare the unibody again on the passenger side to the drivers side. I was looking at my drivers side and it looks different than your first picture. In your picture it looks like you have a dip or bend in the sheet metal where the spring tower goes into the frame. Also look in the engine compartment on the top rails near the motor mounts. Compare them passenger to drivers side with a good light. Take your time there may be something you missed.
Mike
I didn't really feel like tightening and loosening that damn spring compressor again lol my arm hurts. I'm going to pull the spring spacer after i fix my rear leaf (made another post but found the bolt towards the front is snapped on drivers side) i didn't see the shiney spot your talking about but there is no holes and the only spots that are rubbed are rusted lol.



