best exhaust setup for improving mpg
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From: Indiana
Year: 1999 Sport Road Rash Monstaliner
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6 Power Tech Engine
I can't find a straight answer to this question. I am in need of a new exhaust system, minus the header (mines a 99 and in good shape). The muffler has rust holes so it needs replacing anyways. I'm up for changing anything from the downpipe back.
I'm looking for straight MPG improvements overall. I don't care if it sounds like a prius or not, lol (hopefully not!) I've read mixed reviews on whether or not to go with 2.25 inch clearance or jump to the 2.5". Some have said that that much clearance reduces back pressure thus decreasing fuel economy.
I'm at a loss people, which is the correct answer? Also, any specific links to parts would be helpful.
I'm looking for straight MPG improvements overall. I don't care if it sounds like a prius or not, lol (hopefully not!) I've read mixed reviews on whether or not to go with 2.25 inch clearance or jump to the 2.5". Some have said that that much clearance reduces back pressure thus decreasing fuel economy.
I'm at a loss people, which is the correct answer? Also, any specific links to parts would be helpful.
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From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
Assuming you have a 4.0L, 2.5" everything, get rid of the crush, high-flow cat and muffler. http://performance-curve.com/ has many of the parts and is a Cherokee Forum-supporting vendor.
If you have a 2.5L, don't bother.
If you have a 2.6L or 2.1L TD, swap the engine.
If you have a 2.5L TD, a 2.5" pipe with high flow muffler should be good. Don't do stacks on an XJ.
If you have a 2.5L, don't bother.
If you have a 2.6L or 2.1L TD, swap the engine.
If you have a 2.5L TD, a 2.5" pipe with high flow muffler should be good. Don't do stacks on an XJ.
Last edited by salad; Feb 6, 2014 at 01:48 PM.
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From: Indiana
Year: 1999 Sport Road Rash Monstaliner
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6 Power Tech Engine
Assuming you have a 4.0L, 2.5" everything, get rid of the crush, high-flow cat and muffler. http://performance-curve.com/ has many of the parts and is a Cherokee Forum-supporting vendor.
If you have a 2.5L, don't bother.
If you have a 2.6L or 2.1L TD, swap the engine.
If you have a 2.5L TD, a 2.5" pipe with high flow muffler should be good. Don't do stacks on an XJ.
If you have a 2.5L, don't bother.
If you have a 2.6L or 2.1L TD, swap the engine.
If you have a 2.5L TD, a 2.5" pipe with high flow muffler should be good. Don't do stacks on an XJ.
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From: Blue Springs, MO
Year: 1993
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L Laredo
I replaced mine with 2.5" and put a nice flowmaster on it. Sounds great but I didn't notice any fuel savings. I wouldn't think "back pressure" would be an issue. Unless axel puts a banana in yo' tailpipe, then it might not start
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Model: Cherokee
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And yes stacks are the big pipes that come up in semi trucks.
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From: Duluth, MN
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
Assuming you have a 4.0L, 2.5" everything, get rid of the crush, high-flow cat and muffler. http://performance-curve.com/ has many of the parts and is a Cherokee Forum-supporting vendor.
If you have a 2.5L, don't bother.
If you have a 2.6L or 2.1L TD, swap the engine.
If you have a 2.5L TD, a 2.5" pipe with high flow muffler should be good. Don't do stacks on an XJ.
If you have a 2.5L, don't bother.
If you have a 2.6L or 2.1L TD, swap the engine.
If you have a 2.5L TD, a 2.5" pipe with high flow muffler should be good. Don't do stacks on an XJ.
Herp Derp Jerp

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From: The Republic of TEXAS
Year: 1998
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We went straight thru 2.5" Magnaflow all the way back, if u get my drift......a slight improvement in performance and mpg at best. I'd be leary of any advice that says reducing back pressure also reduces performance/mpg.
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Herp Derp Jerp

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From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
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Back pressure is an inherently bad thing. However, exhaust scavenging - which what happens when a system is tuned to actually increase flow, sort of like siphoning liquid - is beneficial.
Just did a rusty s off road muffler and tail pipe 2.5 deal to replace my stock 200,000 mile ex. I like the cherry bomb a lot . No resonance at cruising speed.
P.S. I have all 3 cats in place so that might mellow the cherry bomb alittle.
P.S. I have all 3 cats in place so that might mellow the cherry bomb alittle.
My retort is open the intake and the exhaust up and let her breath !
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From: Marshall, WI
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L i6
Back pressure is needed unless you have a big ol lowpy cam. I know this for a fact. If you want to prove this to yourself unhook the exhaust from the header and take it for a quick spin and you will see what a gutless wonder you have without it. Sounds mean as **** but that's about all.
I've done a lot of research on this as I am too in the process of upgrading my whole exhaust and it appears that a 2.5" exhaust with a good muffler (like a super 40 or 44 flowmaster) and a high flow cat will net you a little bit better performance and 1-3mpg increase. So is it worth it? I say it is based on my research. But hey that's only what I have read myself. Won't know for sure until I do it myself.
I've done a lot of research on this as I am too in the process of upgrading my whole exhaust and it appears that a 2.5" exhaust with a good muffler (like a super 40 or 44 flowmaster) and a high flow cat will net you a little bit better performance and 1-3mpg increase. So is it worth it? I say it is based on my research. But hey that's only what I have read myself. Won't know for sure until I do it myself.
Herp Derp Jerp

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From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
Back pressure is needed unless you have a big ol lowpy cam. I know this for a fact. If you want to prove this to yourself unhook the exhaust from the header and take it for a quick spin and you will see what a gutless wonder you have without it. Sounds mean as **** but that's about all.
Some reading that applies to almost all engines.
http://www.roadstarraider.com/index.php?topic=6767.0
http://forums.mightycarmods.com/show...why-it-s-wrong


