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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 11:47 AM
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Alright so after taking a big hit off road i noticed that my tires sit like this /--\ it is VERY noticeable... My question is, do you think it is bent outer c's or just bad ball joints. The joints dont have any play it seems like but you never really know...
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 01:29 PM
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d**m thats pretty bad, mine lean in a ways but no wear near that, i hope mine are early signs of ball joint, mine arnt loose or sloppy yet,
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 01:38 PM
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but wait... you look like one of those really cool guys that is making a half a$$ rally truck. all you have to do now is lift the front more than the rear and get a monster sticker on the window and youre money!

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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 01:50 PM
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hen you say you took a big hit... as in the front end came down hard to the ground?

Looks to me you bent the front tubes.

Jack the wheel up a few inches, place a pipe under tire and pull up and down looking/feeling for any movement to indicate a broken balljoint/s.
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 01:52 PM
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Alright so i checked the axle housing and it is strait.... So it has to be the C's or badd joints. MAYBE unit bearings as well... but something is not right. btw both tires are the same way. but it is easier to photograph this tire because it is in the sun
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 01:55 PM
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Those pics are better..

Is there cracks in the weld where the inner C meets the tube? If the C's are bent you need a new housing.

Are you stock geared?
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 01:58 PM
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i am stock geared. and the welds look perfect. not even the slight sign of stress on the paint (factory paint)
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 02:03 PM
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can anyone measure the angle between the 2 ball joints? or does anyone know that angle?
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 06:05 PM
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To me looking at those C's they look off..I went out and look at mine and yours look way angled compared to mine.
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 06:11 PM
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OKC can you take an angle reading on yours? like ball joint thru ball joint?
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 06:11 PM
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Looks like it is bent . time for a new housing an alignment rack or camber guage would tell you how much. Not sure couldyou straighten it and truss it afterwards??
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 06:13 PM
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I call badly worn ball joints
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by captainwoot
Looks like it is bent . time for a new housing an alignment rack or camber guage would tell you how much. Not sure couldyou straighten it and truss it afterwards??
the housing is strait. i took a long strait edge to it and it was perfectly flat against the housing.

the C's might be but i need someone to measure theres with an angle finder
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 06:41 PM
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JeepingDan you are right.... i think.... I still want someone to measure their outer C's tho please...

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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 07:16 PM
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so the really bad side is tight. no play where the good side is ^^^
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