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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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how much lift can i get with a bastard pack using other cherokee leafs
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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 01:58 PM
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Depends on what leafs you use to make the bastard packs.

I'm using Dakota leafs to get about 4.5"
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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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i wanna net about 4 give or take
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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 02:06 PM
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I'd say use Dakota leafs. switch and swap between stock XJ and the Dakota to get what you want for height.

You can also use S-10 leafs but from those I've talked to that have ran them, there a bit stiffer..
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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by nick_n_ii
Depends on what leafs you use to make the bastard packs.

I'm using Dakota leafs to get about 4.5"
You converted your grand to leaf springs ???

S-10 or dakotas work fine adjust height accordingly. The reason you use a b pack is to be able to build a leaf with the height you want on the cheap. Mix and match just be sure you laminate them in correctly, and always start witht the Cherokee main spring
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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by xj4life2
You converted your grand to leaf springs ???

S-10 or dakotas work fine adjust height accordingly. The reason you use a b pack is to be able to build a leaf with the height you want on the cheap. Mix and match just be sure you laminate them in correctly, and always start witht the Cherokee main spring
Nope I parted the grand out to build the XJ I bought..
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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by nick_n_ii
I'd say use Dakota leafs. switch and swap between stock XJ and the Dakota to get what you want for height.

You can also use S-10 leafs but from those I've talked to that have ran them, there a bit stiffer..
Really? You would think the Dakota would have stiffer springs because it was around 1000 lbs heavier curb weight.

My bad it can be as small as a 500 lb difference, still you wouldthink the bigger truck would have the stiffer springs.

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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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anyone got any ideas for cherokee bastard pack tho? i kno of a guy parting out an xj so thats what im lookin for advice on
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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Natedg&2
Really? You would think the Dakota would have stiffer springs because it was around 1000 lbs heavier curb weight.

My bad it can be as small as a 500 lb difference, still you wouldthink the bigger truck would have the stiffer springs.
I think alot has to do with the fact the S-10 leafs have more arc to them..
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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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The cherokee bastard pack has been used before to net about 2" of lift or so, I don't think it will live up to your 4" goal though. Here's an article on a budget boost done this way...

http://www.rocklizardfabrications.co...dget_boost.htm

Considering your goal I would shoot for some Dakota leafs to make your bastard pack out of. They have an almost identical spring rate as the XJ, which is what gives them their smooth ride. The S10 is a bit higher spring rate but it works well too, especially if you carry alot of gear or something in the rear of your Jeep.
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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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I have a XJ/XJ bastard pack got 2", With the 1.5" shackle Im at 3.5" from stock. If you used a 2" lift shackle you should get 4".
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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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So Im understanding the bastard leaf pack idea. What I dont understand what you are doing for the front coils? Spacers? Springs? Ive seen you can use f150 springs but it rides like garbage.
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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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Me and my friend are planning to do this to our XJs. Mines a 96 4dr and his is a 90 2dr. Does it matter what year Dakota the springs come from?
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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jager
So Im understanding the bastard leaf pack idea. What I dont understand what you are doing for the front coils? Spacers? Springs? Ive seen you can use f150 springs but it rides like garbage.
I've heard you can use the front coils from a ZJ
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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 96Cherokee
I've heard you can use the front coils from a ZJ
The ZJ coils give 1.5-2" but then you can use spacers to get the 4" your wanting.
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